I'm thinking about implementing an video converter using node.js with ffmpeg but since it's a cpu intensive task, It might block express from handling other requests. I've found a couple of articles about this and some of them use worker threads while others use queues like Agendajs or Bull.
Which one is more suitable for my use case? The video converter doesn't have to respond with the actual video, all it has to do is just convert it and then upload it into an S3 bucket for later retrieval.
Two sub-problems, here:
First problem is keeping your interface responsive during the conversion. If the conversion may take a long time, and you have no good way of splitting it into small chunks (such that you can service requests in between), then you will need to handle it asynchronously, indeed.
So you'll probably want to create at least one worker thread to work in parallel with the main thread.
The second problem is - presumably - making the conversion run fast. Since - as you write - it's a CPU intensive task, it may profit from additional worker threads. This could mean:
2a. several threads working on a single (queued) conversion task, simultaneously
2b. several threads each working on separate conversion tasks at the same time
2c. a mix of both.
The good news is that you really won't have to worry about most of this yourself, because a) ffmpeg is already using multithreading where possible (this depends on the codec in use!), providing you with a ready made solution for 2a. And b), node-fluent-ffmpeg (or node-ffmpeg) is already designed to call ffmpeg, asynchronously, thus solving problem 1.
The only remaining question, then, is will you want to make sure to run only one ffmpeg job at a time (queued), or start conversions as soon as they are requested (2b / 2c)? The latter is going to be easier to implement. However, this could get you in trouble, if a lot of jobs are running simultaneously. At the very least, each conversion job will buffer some input and some output data, and this could get you into memory troubles,
This is where a queue comes into the picture. You'll want to put jobs in a simple queue, and start them so that no more than n are running, concurrently. The optimal n will not necessarily be 1, but is unlikely to be larger than 4 or so (again, as each single conversion is making use of parallelism). You'll have to experiment with that a bit, always keeping in mind that the answer may differ from codec to codec.
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I'd like to learn how to deal with possibility of using multiple CPU cores in audio rendering of a single input parameter array in OSX.
In AudioToolbox, one rendering callback normally lives on a single thread which seemingly gets processed by a single CPU core.
How can one deal with input data overflow on that core, while other 3, 5 or 7 cores staying practically idle?
It is not possible to know in advance how many cores will be available on a particular machine, of course.
Is there a way of (statically or dynamically) allocating rendering callbacks to different threads or "threadbare blocks"?
Is there a way of precisely synchronising the moment at which various rendering callbacks on their own (highest priority) threads in parallel produce their audio buffers?
Can there GCD API perhaps be of any use?
Thanks in advance!
PS. This question is related to another question I have posted a while ago:
OSX AudioUnit SMP , with the difference that I now seem to better understand the scope of the problem.
No matter how you set up your audio processing on macOS – be it just writing a single render callback, or setting up a whole application suite – CoreAudio will always provide you with just one single realtime audio thread. This thread runs with the highest priority there is, and thus is the only way the system can give you at least some guarantees about processing time and such.
If you really need to distribute load over multiple CPU cores, you need to create your own threads manually, and share sample and timing data across them. However, you will not be able to create a thread with the same priority as the system's audio thread, so your additional threads should be considered much "slower" than your audio thread, which means you might have to wait on your audio thread for some other thread(s) longer than you have time available, which then results in an audible glitch.
Long story short, the most crucial part is to design the actual processing algorithm carefully, as in all scenarios you really need to know what task can take how long.
EDIT: My previous answer here was quite different and uneducated. I updated the above parts for anybody coming across this answer in the future, to not be guided in the wrong direction.
You can find the previous version in the history of this answer.
I am not completely sure, but I do not think this is possible. Of course, you can use the Accelerate.framework by Apple, which uses the available resources. But
A render callback lives on a real-time priority thread on which
subsequent render calls arrive asynchronously. Apple
Documentation
On user level you are not able to create such threads.
By the way, these slides by Godfrey van der Linden may be interesting to you.
I'm learning how to use the TPL for parellizing an application I have. The application processes ZIP files, exctracting all of the files held within them and importing the contents into a database. There may be several thousand zip files waiting to be processed at a given time.
Am I right in kicking off a separate task for each of these ZIP files or is this an inefficient way to use the TPL?
Thanks.
This seems like a problem better suited for worker threads (separate thread for each file) managed with the ThreadPool rather than the TPL. TPL is great when you can divide and conquer on a single item of data but your zip files are treated individually.
Disc I/O is going to be your bottle neck so I think that you will need to throttle the number of jobs running simultaneously. It's simple to manage this with worker threads but I'm not sure how much control you have (if nay) over the parallel for, foreach as far as how parallelism goes on at once, which could choke your process and actually slow it down.
Anytime that you have a long running process, you can typically gain additional performance on multi-processor systems by making different threads for each input task. So I would say that you are most likely going down the right path.
I would have thought that this would depend on if the process is limited by CPU or disk. If the process is limited by disk I'd thought that it might be a bad idea to kick off too many threads since the various extractions might just compete with each other.
This feels like something you might need to measure to get the correct answer for what's best.
I have to disagree with certain statements here guys.
First of all, I do not see any difference between ThreadPool and Tasks in coordination or control. Especially when tasks runs on ThreadPool and you have easy control over tasks, exceptions are nicely propagated to the caller during await or awaiting on Tasks.WhenAll(tasks) etc.
Second, I/O wont have to be the only bottleneck here, depending on data and level of compression the ZIPping is going to take msot likely more time than reading the file from the disc.
It can be thought of in many ways, but I would best go for something like number of CPU cores or little less.
Loading file paths to ConcurrentQueue and then allowing running tasks to dequeue filepaths, load files, zip them, save them.
From there you can tweak the number of cores and play with load balancing.
I do not know if ZIP supports file partitioning during compression, but in some advanced/complex cases it could be good idea especially on large files...
WOW, it is 6 years old question, bummer! I have not noticed...:)
I am using a third party API which performs what I would assume are expensive operations in terms of time/resources used (image recognition, etc). What tell-tale signs are there that the code under test should be made to use threads to increase performance?
I have a profiler and will be profiling the code I write which will rely on this API.
Thanks
If you have two distinct sequences of events that don't depend on one-another, then consider it. If you have to write bunches of logic just to make sure that two operations aren't getting in each-others way, it pays off by making the two pieces of code clearer.
If on the other hand you find that, in attempting to make something multithreaded, you have to add gobs of code to communicate results between the threads, because one (or both) can't proceed without some information from the other, that's a good sign that you are trying to make threads where they don't make sense.
One case where it makes sense to go multi-threaded, even when you have to add communication to do it, is when you have one task that needs to stay available for input, and another to do heavy computing. One thread may poll for input from somewhere, blocking when none is available, so that when input is available it is responded to in a timely manner, and feed jobs to another 'worker' thread, so that processing continues at all times, not just when there's input.
One other thing to consider, is that even when a job is 'embarrassingly parallel' (i.e., requiring little or no communication between the parallelized parts), there are cases where multithreading may not be worthwhile. If your CPU can assign different threads to different cores, multithreading will give you a speed up, by allowing multiple cores to chew through the work simultaneously. But on a single core processor, or even a multi-core one with an unfortunate OS, having multiple threads will not speed things up, as the one core will still have to get through all the work.
Image processing is often cpu-bound. However, if your image-processing api already is designed to leverage multiple cpus, multi-threading probably won't help you. The strategy I usually consider for quickly determining if multi-threading will help is to write a simple program which does the relevant processing over and over again. Then, I will run it on a set of data, then run two instances of the process simultaneously,each on half of the data. There is no need to ensure the data is equalized for such a test; if one process runs out it will just run one instance for anything left. Timing is done via wall-clock time. I mean this literally; pick a large enough data set that it will take at least a full minute to run, but ideally 5 minutes or longer).
If running two copies at the same time improves throughput significantly, multi-threading is probably a good idea. Obviously this strategy is only practical in certain instances and in some cases multi-threading can involve leveraging shared output in ways this trick can't emulate. But, it's an absurdly easy test to run, and rarely requires much, if any, code to be written.
What are some concrete examples of applications that need to be multi-threaded, or don't need to be, but are much better that way?
Answers would be best if in the form of one application per post that way the most applicable will float to the top.
There is no hard and fast answer, but most of the time you will not see any advantage for systems where the workflow/calculation is sequential. If however the problem can be broken down into tasks that can be run in parallel (or the problem itself is massively parallel [as some mathematics or analytical problems are]), you can see large improvements.
If your target hardware is single processor/core, you're unlikely to see any improvement with multi-threaded solutions (as there is only one thread at a time run anyway!)
Writing multi-threaded code is often harder as you may have to invest time in creating thread management logic.
Some examples
Image processing can often be done in parallel (e.g. split the image into 4 and do the work in 1/4 of the time) but it depends upon the algorithm being run to see if that makes sense.
Rendering of animation (from 3DMax,etc.) is massively parallel as each frame can be rendered independently to others -- meaning that 10's or 100's of computers can be chained together to help out.
GUI programming often helps to have at least two threads when doing something slow, e.g. processing large number of files - this allows the interface to remain responsive whilst the worker does the hard work (in C# the BackgroundWorker is an example of this)
GUI's are an interesting area as the "responsiveness" of the interface can be maintained without multi-threading if the worker algorithm keeps the main GUI "alive" by giving it time, in Windows API terms (before .NET, etc) this could be achieved by a primitive loop and no need for threading:
MSG msg;
while(GetMessage(&msg, hwnd, 0, 0))
{
TranslateMessage(&msg);
DispatchMessage(&msg);
// do some stuff here and then release, the loop will come back
// almost immediately (unless the user has quit)
}
Servers are typically multi-threaded (web servers, radius servers, email servers, any server): you usually want to be able to handle multiple requests simultaneously. If you do not want to wait for a request to end before you start to handle a new request, then you mainly have two options:
Run a process with multiple threads
Run multiple processes
Launching a process is usually more resource-intensive than lauching a thread (or picking one in a thread-pool), so servers are usually multi-threaded. Moreover, threads can communicate directly since they share the same memory space.
The problem with multiple threads is that they are usually harder to code right than multiple processes.
There are really three classes of reasons that multithreading would be applied:
Execution Concurrency to improve compute performance: If you have a problem that can be broken down into pieces and you also have more than one execution unit (processor core) available then dispatching the pieces into separate threads is the path to being able to simultaneously use two or more cores at once.
Concurrency of CPU and IO Operations: This is similar in thinking to the first one but in this case the objective is to keep the CPU busy AND also IO operations (ie: disk I/O) moving in parallel rather than alternating between them.
Program Design and Responsiveness: Many types of programs can take advantage of threading as a program design benefit to make the program more responsive to the user. For example the program can be interacting via the GUI and also doing something in the background.
Concrete Examples:
Microsoft Word: Edit document while the background grammar and spell checker works to add all the green and red squiggle underlines.
Microsoft Excel: Automatic background recalculations after cell edits
Web Browser: Dispatch multiple threads to load each of the several HTML references in parallel during a single page load. Speeds page loads and maximizes TCP/IP data throughput.
These days, the answer should be Any application that can be.
The speed of execution for a single thread pretty much peaked years ago - processors have been getting faster by adding cores, not by increasing clock speeds. There have been some architectural improvements that make better use of the available clock cycles, but really, the future is taking advantage of threading.
There is a ton of research going on into finding ways of parallelizing activities that we traditionally wouldn't think of parallelizing. Even something as simple as finding a substring within a string can be parallelized.
Basically there are two reasons to multi-thread:
To be able to do processing tasks in parallel. This only applies if you have multiple cores/processors, otherwise on a single core/processor computer you will slow the task down compared to the version without threads.
I/O whether that be networked I/O or file I/O. Normally if you call a blocking I/O call, the process has to wait for the call to complete. Since the processor/memory are several orders of magnitude quicker than a disk drive (and a network is even slower) it means the processor will be waiting a long time. The computer will be working on other things but your application will not be making any progress. However if you have multiple threads, the computer will schedule your application and the other threads can execute. One common use is a GUI application. Then while the application is doing I/O the GUI thread can keep refreshing the screen without looking like the app is frozen or not responding. Even on a single processor putting I/O in a different thread will tend to speed up the application.
The single threaded alternative to 2 is to use asynchronous calls where they return immediately and you keep controlling your program. Then you have to see when the I/O completes and manage using it. It is often simpler just to use a thread to do the I/O using the synchronous calls as they tend to be easier.
The reason to use threads instead of separate processes is because threads should be able to share data easier than multiple processes. And sometimes switching between threads is less expensive than switching between processes.
As another note, for #1 Python threads won't work because in Python only one python instruction can be executed at a time (known as the GIL or Global Interpreter Lock). I use that as an example but you need to check around your language. In python if you want to do parallel calculations, you need to do separate processes.
Many GUI frameworks are multi-threaded. This allows you to have a more responsive interface. For example, you can click on a "Cancel" button at any time while a long calculation is running.
Note that there are other solutions for this (for example the program can pause the calculation every half-a-second to check whether you clicked on the Cancel button or not), but they do not offer the same level of responsiveness (the GUI might seem to freeze for a few seconds while a file is being read or a calculation being done).
All the answers so far are focusing on the fact that multi-threading or multi-processing are necessary to make the best use of modern hardware.
There is however also the fact that multithreading can make life much easier for the programmer. At work I program software to control manufacturing and testing equipment, where a single machine often consists of several positions that work in parallel. Using multiple threads for that kind of software is a natural fit, as the parallel threads model the physical reality quite well. The threads do mostly not need to exchange any data, so the need to synchronize threads is rare, and many of the reasons for multithreading being difficult do therefore not apply.
Edit:
This is not really about a performance improvement, as the (maybe 5, maybe 10) threads are all mostly sleeping. It is however a huge improvement for the program structure when the various parallel processes can be coded as sequences of actions that do not know of each other. I have very bad memories from the times of 16 bit Windows, when I would create a state machine for each machine position, make sure that nothing would take longer than a few milliseconds, and constantly pass the control to the next state machine. When there were hardware events that needed to be serviced on time, and also computations that took a while (like FFT), then things would get ugly real fast.
Not directly answering your question, I believe in the very near future, almost every application will need to be multithreaded. The CPU performance is not growing that fast these days, which is compensated for by the increasing number of cores. Thus, if we will want our applications to stay on the top performance-wise, we'll need to find ways to utilize all your computer's CPUs and keep them busy, which is quite a hard job.
This can be done via telling your programs what to do instead of telling them exactly how. Now, this is a topic I personally find very interesting recently. Some functional languages, like F#, are able to parallelize many tasks quite easily. Well, not THAT easily, but still without the necessary infrastructure needed in more procedural-style environments.
Please take this as additional information to think about, not an attempt to answer your question.
The kind of applications that need to be threaded are the ones where you want to do more than one thing at once. Other than that no application needs to be multi-threaded.
Applications with a large workload which can be easily made parallel. The difficulty of taking your application and doing that should not be underestimated. It is easy when your data you're manipulating is not dependent upon other data but v. hard to schedule the cross thread work when there is a dependency.
Some examples I've done which are good multithreaded candidates..
running scenarios (eg stock derivative pricing, statistics)
bulk updating data files (eg adding a value / entry to 10,000 records)
other mathematical processes
E.g., you want your programs to be multithreaded when you want to utilize multiple cores and/or CPUs, even when the programs don't necessarily do many things at the same time.
EDIT: using multiple processes is the same thing. Which technique to use depends on the platform and how you are going to do communications within your program, etc.
Although frivolous, games, in general are becomming more and more threaded every year. At work our game uses around 10 threads doing physics, AI, animation, redering, network and IO.
Just want to add that caution must be taken with treads if your sharing any resources as this can lead to some very strange behavior, and your code not working correctly or even the threads locking each other out.
mutex will help you there as you can use mutex locks for protected code regions, a example of protected code regions would be reading or writing to shared memory between threads.
just my 2 cents worth.
The main purpose of multithreading is to separate time domains. So the uses are everywhere where you want several things to happen in their own distinctly separate time domains.
HERE IS A PERFECT USE CASE
If you like affiliate marketing multi-threading is essential. Kick the entire process off via a multi-threaded application.
Download merchant files via FTP, unzipping the files, enumerating through each file performing cleanup like EOL terminators from Unix to PC CRLF then slam each into SQL Server via Bulk Inserts then when all threads are complete create the full text search indexes for a environmental instance to be live tomorrow and your done. All automated to kick off at say 11:00 pm.
BOOM! Fast as lightening. Heck you have so much time left you can even download merchant images locally for the products you download, save the images as webp and set the product urls to use local images.
Yep I did it. Wrote it in C#. Works like a charm. Purchase a AMD Ryzen Threadripper 64-core with 256gb memory and fast drives like nvme, get lunch come back and see it all done or just stay around and watch all cores peg to 95%+, listen to the pc's fans kick, warm up the room and the look outside as the neighbors lights flicker from the power drain as you get shit done.
Future would be to push processing to GPU's as well.
Ok well I am pushing it a little bit with the neighbors lights flickering but all else was absolutely true. :)
How do you make your application multithreaded ?
Do you use asynch functions ?
or do you spawn a new thread ?
I think that asynch functions are already spawning a thread so if your job is doing just some file reading, being lazy and just spawning your job on a thread would just "waste" ressources...
So is there some kind of design when using thread or asynch functions ?
If you are talking about .Net, then don't forget the ThreadPool. The thread pool is also what asynch functions often use. Spawning to much threads can actually hurt your performance. A thread pool is designed to spawn just enough threads to do the work the fastest. So do use a thread pool instead of spwaning your own threads, unless the thread pool doesn't meet your needs.
PS: And keep an eye out on the Parallel Extensions from Microsoft
Spawning threads is only going to waste resources if you start spawning tons of them, one or two extra threads isn't going to effect the platforms proformance, infact System currently has over 70 threads for me, and msn is using 32 (I really have no idea how a messenger can use that many threads, exspecialy when its minimised and not really doing anything...)
Useualy a good time to spawn a thread is when something will take a long time, but you need to keep doing something else.
eg say a calculation will take 30 seconds. The best thing to do is spawn a new thread for the calculation, so that you can continue to update the screen, and handle any user input because users will hate it if your app freezes untill its finished doing the calculation.
On the other hand, creating threads to do something that can be done almost instantly is nearly pointless, since the overhead of creating (or even just passing work to an existing thread using a thread pool) will be higher than just doing the job in the first place.
Sometimes you can break your app into a couple of seprate parts which run in their own threads. For example in games the updates/physics etc may be one thread, while grahpics are another, sound/music is a third, and networking is another. The problem here is you really have to think about how these parts will interact or else you may have worse proformance, bugs that happen seemingly "randomly", or it may even deadlock.
I'll second Fire Lancer's answer - creating your own threads is an excellent way to process big tasks or to handle a task that would otherwise be "blocking" to the rest of synchronous app, but you have to have a clear understanding of the problem that you must solve and develope in a way that clearly defines the task of a thread, and limits the scope of what it does.
For an example I recently worked on - a Java console app runs periodically to capture data by essentially screen-scraping urls, parsing the document with DOM, extracting data and storing it in a database.
As a single threaded application, it, as you would expect, took an age, averaging around 1 url a second for a 50kb page. Not too bad, but when you scale out to needing to processes thousands of urls in a batch, it's no good.
Profiling the app showed that most of the time the active thread was idle - it was waiting for I/O operations - opening of a socket to the remote URL, opening a connection to the database etc. It's this sort of situation that can easily be improved with multithreading. Rewriting to be multi-threaded and with just 5 threads instead of one, even on a single core cpu, gave an increase in throughput of over 20 times.
In this example, each "worker" thread was explicitly limited to what it did - open the remote a remote url, parse the data, store it in the db. All the "high level" processing - generating the list of urls to parse, working out which next, handling errors, all remained with the control of the main thread.
The use of threads makes you think more about the way your application needs threading and can in the long run make it easier to improve / control your performance.
Async methods are faster to use but they are a bit magic - a lot of things happen to make them possible - so it's probable that at some point you will need something that they can't give you. Then you can try and roll some custom threading code.
It all depends on your needs.
The answer is "it depends".
It depends on what you're trying to achieve. I'm going to assume that you're aiming for more performance.
The simplest solution is to find another way to improve your performance. Run a profiler. Look for hot spots. Reduce unnecessary IO.
The next solution is to break your program into multiple processes, each of which can run in their own address space. This is easiest because there is no chance of the individual processes messing each other up.
The next solution is to use threads. At this point you're opening a major can of worms, so start small, and only multi-thread the critical path of the code.
The next solution is to use asynch IO. Generally only recommended for people writing some of very heavily loaded server, and even then I would rather re-use one of the existing frameworks that abstract away the details e.g. the C++ framework ICE, or an EJB server under java.
Note that each of these solutions has multiple sub-solutions - there are different breeds of threads and different kinds of asynch IO, each with slightly different performance characteristics, but again, it's generally best to let the framework handle it for you.