Summary
I'm trying to reason about a few integration patterns around using Azure Service Bus and Event Grid in the context of a microservices-based architecture. I like service bus for the transaction support, load leveling, sessions and so on. Just looking for feedback on the way I'm reasoning about them being used together for internal microservice communication and also provide events to external partners via webhooks.
Option 1
Say I already use service bus for microservices communication, but I would also like to publish to event grid to support publishing via webhooks to partner services outside my trust boundary. I'm thinking to have an Azure function (or similar) to receive my custom service bus topic events and the publish them to Event Grid.
This would also allow for the webhook event to be different than the internal events.
Is there any other option (e.g., some service bus premium feature) that could provide that integration out-of-the-box (ootb)? I'm only aware of service bus system events being pushed to Event Grid ootb.
Option 2
Have your microservices publish events only to Event Grid and then have Event Grid events pushed to your service bus topic. It would allow the webhook option in certain cases without much extra, but it seems odd for all my microservices to publish to Event Grid if I need to them have that generally pushed to service bus for load leveling and so on.
I would rather use service bus for my microservice communication. There are other drawbacks as well. It would only seem to make the webhook option a little more straightforward.
Option 3
Have the event publisher that wants to send webhook-related events publish to both Event Grid and service bus. This seems like a really bad idea and generally clumsy, even if you were able to abstract it away somewhat in code. It seems like it would be a worse version of option 1.
Related
I have multiple WebApi that are hosted in Azure but some of the API taking a long time to process.
Instead of a calling from the scheduler function in Azure, I was advised to use the Messaging Queue.
Is this a good approach?
Also, let say my API URL.. https://testwebapi.net/api1 and https://testwebapi.net/api2, how can we communicate these API using Message queue and also how to call the WebAPI individually from Messaging Queue?
Is this Azure Bus service is the same as Messaging Queue for Azure.
I would strongly recommend you look at the respective docs on Azure, and start doing some quick tutorials and post more specific questions.
Now, to answer, what I believe is your main question, Azure Bus Service and Messaging Queue.
The thing is, there is no one Messaging Queue, rather three options for Azure messaging - Service Bus, Event Grid, and Event Hubs. Also, there is something called 'Azure Queue Storage', but I dont think you are thinking of that, considering your context.
There is a very cool comparison chart available here - https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/event-grid/compare-messaging-services
But, I think, my guess, is you are looking for ultimately looking to use Azure Service Bus.
Also, please understand that one does not invalidate the other. As your project develops, you may end up using Azure Service Bus with other options like Event Hubs or Grids or all of them in different places.
Also, you keep using the incorrect terms. for example, you say 'Azure Bus service' but its really 'Azure Service Bus'. Also, there is no thing called 'Messaging Queue for Azure.' as there are so many different messaging services for Azure. This is what I want to add here. Spent some time with the docs and post more specific questions as you continue your project.
Basically what I understood from few Azure topics is as below:
Azure Event Hub - where data is received initially and converted into events
Service Bus- acting as a queue
Azure Event Grid - where events converted in hub are transferred here.
so the connection is like below:
Hub -> Service Bus -> Event Grid -> Pub Sub -> Storage
I understood this concept. My problem is I want data to be pushed from the event grid to GCP (subscription / topics). My question are:
How can I establish this using PUSH method?
What do I need to develop exactly?
How can I push things from grid to pubsub/subscriptions?
I found this link where data is getting published into Event Grid but I want to push data from the event grid to gcp. Can anybody explain me where am I going wrong or what exactly should I start with. I am new to this and its very confusing so I just need little bit of guidance over here.
I have below doubts:
Is there any direct subscriber option available with event grid listener? I mean can I directly link my google storage account with this listener so, whenever there is an event triggered it will be directly pushed to my GCP account(I don't have Azure account with me right now since access issue is in progress so I can't see it that's why I am asking here)
Suppose I have 20 columns in my data but I want only 16 columns to be pushed in GCP so is there any customization possible while sending data from event grid/event hub to pub/sub
If I write custom connectors code as per the links provided in the below answers then how can I run it? I mean where I can deploy those scripts on the cloud so that they will be triggered automatically whenever an event is triggered?
Can I implement webhooks in this scenario? (as an alternative to connectors), If yes then how can I do it and on which side do I need to create it?
Also, I read some articles and I came to know from a few guys that they experienced data loss in this entire process. So, what's the possibility over here and how can it be avoided
Can anybody explain me where am I going wrong or what exactly should I start with.
It's right here:
so the connection is like below:
Hub -> Service Bus -> Event Grid -> Pub Sub -> Storage
Although this might be the case, it sounds very much as if you're looking at one (very) specific scenario where data flows in this exact way.
Azure Event Hub, Azure Service Bus and Azure Event Grid can work together, but can also be used completely separate from each other.
Event Grid
The purpose of Event Grid is to enable Reactive programming. Use this when you want to react to (status) changes.
Event Hubs
Event Hubs facilitate a big data pipeline. Use this when you need telemetry and distributed data streaming.
Service Bus
The purpose of Service bus is to enable High-value enterprise messaging. Use this when you want to do something like Order processing and financial transactions.
In some cases, you use the services side by side to fulfill distinct roles. For example, an ecommerce site can use Service Bus to process the order, Event Hubs to capture site telemetry, and Event Grid to respond to events like an item was shipped.
In other cases, you link them together to form an event and data pipeline. You use Event Grid to respond to events in the other services. For an example of using Event Grid with Event Hubs to migrate data to a data warehouse, see Stream big data into a data warehouse.
Taken from the very interesting and important documentation article Choose between Azure messaging services - Event Grid, Event Hubs, and Service Bus
EDIT
My problem is I want data to be pushed from event grid to GCP (subscription / topics). So how can I establish this using PUSH method??
Possibly the simplest solution is to have an Event Grid Event trigger a webhook (which might run an Azure Function or a Google Cloud Function) which in turn puts the event/message on the GCP Topic.
Publishing messages is quite well documented. There are examples on how to do so with a REST call, command-line, C#, Go, JAVA, NodeJS, PHP, Python and Ruby.
EDIT 2
What you need to do is create an Event Grid Subscription to listen to and handle Event Grid Events.
Here's an example screenshot on how to listen for events for a specific Storage Account and call a WebHook whenever such an event occurs:
Pay attention to the "Endpoint Details": that's where you can specify to, for instance, call a webhook every time an event is triggered.
The easiest way to transfer the EventHub generated events would probably be to create an EventHub event receiver in Node.js (which you mentioned in your comments) as described here, which receives events and publishes them to Cloud Pub/Sub directly, as described in the Cloud Pub/Sub publisher documentation for Node.js.
According to Azure's Documentation, Event Hubs are limited to 20 Consumer Groups.
I have a use case where I would like to broadcast an event to 50+ different 3rd party service. I have a processor for each, which combines the event with some other state, translate and send it out.
It is the same event received by all consumers so I do not think partitioning is relevant here.
How do I implement a large number of consuming services with Event Hubs? Am I doing it wrong? Is this a limitation of the way the Event Hubs client works?
I think you should consider implementing a Pub-Sub mechanism using Azure Service Bus, whether it's instead of the Events Hub or "after" it. It will allow to publish the event to all subscribed 3rd party services.
Take a look at Get started with Service Bus topics on how this might be implemented.
Hope it helps!
Our application consist of 7 microservices that have some intercommunication. Currently we're using simple storage queues that a microservice publish events to (the number of events is relative low). Then we have a azurefunction for each queue that might call another microservices. This is working fine for us right now the services uses about 20 queues with a corresponding function.
Now we need to handle an blobstorage event, and I did some googling and a started to get really confused. Suddenly there was a lot of questions:
Should we switch to Azure Event Grid
It handles blobstorage without any limitations (functions blobstorage trigger has some)
It allows for multiple subscribers (storage queues does not)
It has a lot of fuz - maybe this is the new recommended way
I like the idea of one central thing, but it reminds me a bit about biztalk...
Should I switch to Azure Service Bus
It has a nice tool (ServiceBusExplorer) for monitoring the queues and listners, and I could to a repost of any failed events
It visulizes my azure functions subscribers nicely
Should I continue with only storage queues
A bit difficult to monitor, but it works nice
I'll be really thankful for any advice or insights to this question.
Thanks
EventGrid is great when you have notifications floating to multiple subscribers. Is that the case for you?
An example would be deferring messages. With queues you can defer a message, not with EventGrid. Whenever to choose Storage Queues or Service Bus depends on the specific requirement that you have. Do you need de-duplication? Or ordered delivery? If you do, Service Bus is the way. Otherwise Storage Queues is enough.
First of All, I would like to recommend these two articles, it will clarify most of your doubts about these services:
Choose between Azure services that deliver messages
Storage queues and Service Bus queues compared
Regarding Event Grid, it acts like a bridge between the publisher and the subscriber, where publisher will send messages and forget whether it has been processed or not, and the Event Grid will handle the retry if the receiver\subscriber does not acknowledge that it was processed successfully.
As you mentioned, storage queues has limitations, as such blob triggered functions, and maybe Service Bus, but it will depend on your design requirements. I would like to point out some things you might consider before moving to Event Grid.
Storage queues & Service Bus does not care about your message schema, in Event Grid you have to create a custom event based on their schema to wrap your event, so the publisher and subscriber has to understand Event Grid for that, not that is a big deal, but now you have both sides coupled to Event Grid.
If you want to send the event straight to your micro-service, you have to implement the subscription validation in your service, otherwise the service won't be able to receive the events
Event Grid only retry the delivery of your messages for 24 hours, if your service is down or not process the message correctly for longer than 24h, it will make the event dead. Currently, there is no way to query dead messages. Storage Queues and Service Bus are configurable how long you keep the message and it can be kept for many days.
Your service web-hook must acknowledge the receipt(http 200 or 202) of an event within 60 seconds, otherwise it will consider failed. If your operation is longer that that, you should send it to a queue and handle the locking from your service.
Probably there are more limitations, but these are the ones I remember right now that might change anytime soon, I think Event Grid is a great technology still on early days, and there is much to improve, I would recommencement only as a hub for Azure management events, I don't think it is ready for use as an application integrator.
Regarding your comment for queue manager, for Service Bus your have the Service Bus Explorer, and for Azure Storage you have the Azure Storage Explorer, where you can check the messages in the queue, is not the same as Service Bus, but helps.
It very much depends on how are you consuming the queue messages, you can take a look at this comparison: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/service-bus-messaging/service-bus-azure-and-service-bus-queues-compared-contrasted
If you don't need ordering and if you don't have a strong limit on message volume, size or TTL, you can stick to storage queues.
I would appreciate some help picking out the best suited Azure services for my scenario - I am just beginning with Azure services and my knowledge is pretty limited.
I have data from multiple sources, and of different shapes, coming into an Event Hub. I need to subscribe to the events from the Event Hub and, based on their format, process them and ultimately save them into an SQL Database. All components - events consumers, the SQL Database - need to be hosted in the cloud.
How would I implement this in an "Azure Orientated Architecture"?
In an off cloud application, I would have competing consumers subscribing to the Event Hub. They would be some console applications or Windows services, and each would be processing the events asynchronously (this is further simplified by the event processing being idempotent).
Ideally, the Azure equivalent of the above consumers would scale up and down automatically, so I would like to not have to use VMs that host console applications (where I would need to keep an eye on the VM's resources myself). Scaling and deployment wise they would have to behave like App Services, however I'm under the impression that those are just for web applications. I've also briefly looked at Web Jobs, but those seem to be polling data at various intervals, whereas I need a proper event subscriber that the Event Hub pushes data into.
Any help will be greatly appreciated!
Thank you.
Later Edit:
I've looked into Web Jobs and they do allow continuous
processing, hence looks like they can be used as automatically
scaling subscribers.
Ideally I would like to write the code for
the subscribers in F#. C# is the other option if that is not
available.
You can see my post regarding IoT Hub. Its basically the same for Event Hub.
(each of the examples in the post can be used on Event Hubs).
https://stackoverflow.com/a/38682324/6659347
In addition, For Event Hub you can also use Azure Function which has an Event Hub trigger - a function that will run whenever an event hub receive a new event. And it will also answer your requirement of scaling.
Make sure that if you are working with multiple consumers make use of the Event Hub Consumer Groups so each consumer can read the stream independently.
I'd say use a WebJob in combination with an EventProcessor. I wrote some demo code that can easily be transferred to a WebJob: https://github.com/DeHeerSoftware/SemanticLogging.EventHub/tree/master/SemanticLogging.EventHub.Processor
See https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/documentation/articles/event-hubs-csharp-ephcs-getstarted/#receive-messages-with-eventprocessorhost for official documentation.
I've created a WebJob myself using this approach. Works like a charm.