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How do I tell search engine crawlers not to check a checkbox when indexing my site? I want to do something like this:
<input type="checkbox" rel="nofollow" />
, but the rel attribute is not listed in the list of attributes here: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/input, which makes sense, because this isn't a link. But I am not sure how to tell search engines that they shouldn't check this when filling out the form in that case. If I include this rel="nofollow" attribute here, will search engines comply anyway, even though it is not valid?

You can block Googlebot from crawling your forms by excluding them in your robots.txt file.

It seems that Google only follows GET forms. So make it a POST.
That means that if a search form is forbidden in robots.txt, we won't crawl any of the URLs that a form would generate. Similarly, we only retrieve GET forms and avoid forms that require any kind of user information. For example, we omit any forms that have a password input or that use terms commonly associated with personal information such as logins, userids, contacts, etc. We are also mindful of the impact we can have on web sites and limit ourselves to a very small number of fetches for a given site.
From developers.google
For indexing different search results, I suggest the following approaches
Use different params or urls for different search results and put them in the sitemap and refer to them on a sacrificial or site-map page.
Detect that a robot is crawling and make some inputs read-only and autofill others to achieve different search results.

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Search result: How to show only pages, not different content items?

We are using Liferay as a classic CMS meaning that we compose pages using web content articles. There is an issue with Liferay's internal search I could not yet find a proper answer for:
Because web content articles are pretty much only building blocks for pages we don't want the search to show them as distinct items. The user should only get a list of pages that contain their search keywords, including all the articles put onto this page.
At the moment we can see two different approaches and both come with certain problems we could not solve yet:
Idea 1
We modify the journal indexer and try to obtain all URLs of the pages (how?) where the article has been placed on. Then we add them to the document to be indexed. In the search result we then can access the URLs and collect them. In the end we make sure every URL is only shown once.
Idea 2
At some point Liferay renders the entire page before sending it to the browser. If we somehow could put an indexer there, we could index the entire page. We then could limit the search to the special "page documents". Getting the fully rendered page would be the main issue here, because either we would have to run a crawler to frequently trigger this indexing or we would need to find a way to trigger page rendering from within an indexer or something like that.
I have been carrying this problem around for quite a while now and still could not find an idea good enough to spend time trying it out. If anyone of you has some input on those two ideas or maybe an entirely different approach, I would be extremely grateful.
I'll just answer myself, because by now we found a suitable solution to solve our problem:
In addition to the default search portlet there is also a "Web Content Search Portlet" shipped with Liferay. It seems to have been part of Liferay for quite a while now, but it's somewhat hard to find, because there is hardly any documentation for it (I only found the Liferay wiki page, which isn't really anything at all). It searches only within web content articles and shows links to the pages rather than just a link an isolated view of the article. It has much less configuration options than the default search portlet, however. Pretty much all it allows to change is whether articles actually have to be placed on at least one page to show up in the results.
So there is no need for any kind of custom indexer or any other "hack"...all we need to do is use the correct portlet. We will only need to write a hook that changes the appearance of the result page.
What you ask is interesting but your ideas are on the wrong direction.
Specially idea 2 it's particulary wrong because you cannot do indexing work meanwhile a page is rendered. Think about performace only.
In Liferay pages and assets are not directly linked: pages have portlets and portlets display assets (web content and more).
Liferay indexing refers and scans assets content, not refers the display result of the assets. Think about permission: the same page can display different contents depends on the user who looks.
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Definitive method to exclude page sections from main search engines

I have quite a few constant parts of pages I'd like to exclude from displaying in search results to prevent obscuring of the unique content on each respective page.
I read that class="nocontent" will perform this action for Google. But what about the other main search engines like Yahoo and Bing? Is there a globally accepted solution for this, or is there an additional step to get them to do the same?
Thank you for any assistance.
Google doesn't offer such a feature for the general search. The class nocontent is only for Google Custom Search. The comments googleon/googleoff are only for Google Search Appliance.
Yahoo! introduced the class robots-nocontent in 2007. Google doesn't support it.
There is a microformats draft, but it has probably no support.
Despite that, there are some "hacks" that could accomplish what you need, but I wouldn't count on or use them. For example: inserting content with JS, or embedding content in iframe (and blocking the source URL in robots.txt).

How would I best make this SEO_able?

I have a search engine that searches albums.
For each music album, I have a page.
So, the work flow goes like this:
People search for music titles
The search engine displays a list of albums.
People click on an album to go to a details page.
I want google to index my front page and the details page. I want the details page to be highly ranked. How can I build a sitemap for this?
By the way, I have about 5 million albums (but I want the top 1000 ones to be highly ranked on google)
You would not use a sitemap for that many results. You would want each album to appear as a page with a unique URI to reference that page. That way the search engine can crawl your site by crawling links since search bots cannot submit form data. Each of those URIs should be simple, meaning limited to this part of the URI syntax:
scheme://authority_segment/path
Program your web application to remove and throw away any extraneous data, such as query string or parameters. If you do this you have to be sure that you are watching for URI poisoning or SQL injection even through means of character encoding.
How can I build a sitemap for this?
By pulling the addresses out of your database and creating a XML file with a high priority for some selected pages. Somehow I think that isn’t your real question …
If I wanted to automate building a site map for a site like this, I'd employ Python. I'd pretty much write everything from the ground up (except the data store access). The format is quite simple.
I'm not sure I quite understand your question...

Why and how does the googlebot use my website's search engine?

Looking through my search logs from time to time, I notice that by far the biggest user of my search engine is the google-bot. What gives? Is it looking for content that might not be directly accessible through navigation? If so, how does it know which words and phrases to look for (they're surprisingly relevant). Does it check the most popular keywords on the site? I know I seem to be answering my own question here, but this is really only working it out from first principles. I'd like to hear from someone who knows what they're talking about (i.e. not me).
If your search form's method is get instead of post, each search has its own url, and people might be posting those urls elsewhere. Or if you have a (possibly inadvertently) publicly accessible webstats page that listed those urls, that's another common way for search engines to stumble upon your internal search urls. A third way I've seen is sites that list recent searches on their pages, but this is more intentional. "MySQL Performance Blog" does this to an annoying extent, so any search of their site from google yields hundreds of pages of similar searches, even if none of them found what they were looking for.
Edit: Looks like it does on occasion, but only GET forms:
http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2008/04/crawling-through-html-forms.html
Google will use words that occur on your site in search boxes to try to find pages that it can't otherwise.
Google says that for the past few months, it has been filling in forms
on a "small number" of "high-quality" web sites to get back
information. What words has it been entering into those forms? Words
automatically selected that occur on the site, with check boxes and
drop-down menus also being selected.
http://searchengineland.com/google-now-fills-out-forms-crawls-results-13760

How does google return "searches" from other websites?

Let's say I'm performing a google search for search term.
Sometimes, one of the suggestions will be to a URL like this: www.someothersearch.com/search+term/
How does "someothersearch.com" do this?
In general, a page will only be in Google if some other page links to it. Google is not going to go to someothersearch.com and submit "search term" into the form, it is likely a hidden or nonhidden link on someothesearch.com.
Why not? someothersearch.com presumably has its own index pages for terms searched previously; the Google spider is just indexing those index pages as well.
Just a guess. Maybe these sites support OpenSearch?
I misunderstood your question at first; What these sites are doing is rewriting their requests. How they know which terms people will search for is a bit of a mystery to me, but it probably relies on things like watching google.com/trends, scraping their own and other log files for referral from google that include the search term, buying lists of well ranking terms people might use AdSense for and instead trying to generate natural traffic for them... etc. Probably when they add new pages with these terms they're also adding them to their xml sitemap that Google will crawl.
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I have added the Open-Search tag to your question; please follow it. You'll find this post on https://stackoverflow.com/questions/20830/firefox-and-ie7-users-here-is-your-stackoverflow-search-pluginlink textthe most informative; however I recommend you use image/png for your icon format.

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