If I have a router that has a vulnerability that allows an attacker to gain full control it, does using a VPN on the network with the said router prevent an attacker from being able to snoop on the connection?
In other words, does using a VPN secure the connection from a device to a router on the same network? And would a VPS make a difference in this scenario?
No, the whole point of a secure VPN is that the transport doesn't have to be trusted. Obviously a VPN that is not actually secure (is incorrectly implemented, has a design flaw) will not live up to the expectations of a secure VPN. But the whole point of a VPN is to not trust the transport.
Not sure it is the right place to ask this question but still, I'll answer here.
A VPN establishes a secure tunnel between two ends. What's in between does not matter as soon as the VPN was correctly established and the technology used is secured and "flawless".
The only exception (that comes to mind) is if one of the two ends is compromised. Examples:
Your home network has a compromised router which advertises to your machine the wrong DNS hosts (dns poisoning). By doing so, you may end up establishing a VPN connection with a rogue machine (of some malicious guy). Note that this is very unlikely as some more conditions are needed to be successful in this attack, such as stealing or "faking" certificates or bypassing validation.
So, back to your question, using a VPN will fully secure the connection between the two ends (whatever exists in between), as far as you are establishing the connection with the right host/target.
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I have a front end web server running over HTTPS - this is public facing - i.e. port is open.
I also have a backend API server that my webserver makes API requests to - this is public facing and requires authentication - port is open.
These 2 servers run over HTTPS.
Behind the API server, there are lots of other servers. The API server reverse proxies to these servers. Ports for these other servers are not open to incoming traffic. They can only be talked to via the API server.
My Question ... Do the "lots of other servers" need to run over HTTPS or, given that they cannot be accessed externally, can they run over HTTP safely instead?
I thought this would be a common question but I could not find an answer to it. Thanks. If this is a dupe please point me to the right answer.
TL;DR you should encrypt the traffic unless it's on the same host.
You can't trust your network. Malwares in your own network can intercept/modify http requests.
It's not theoretical attacks, but real life example:
Routers (probably hacked) inside the network of some websites injecting ads: https://www.blackhat.com/docs/us-16/materials/us-16-Nakibly-TCP-Injection-Attacks-in-the-Wild-A-Large-Scale-Study-wp.pdf
Indian network sniffing between cloudfare and back-end: https://medium.com/#karthikb351/airtel-is-sniffing-and-censoring-cloudflares-traffic-in-india-and-they-don-t-even-know-it-90935f7f6d98#.hymc3785e
The now famous "SSl Added and removed here :-)" from the NSA
The question is how much do you trust the connection between the public IP and the backend server?
If it is not your data center, at least any privileged employee of the ISP could see/change the data. I guess that's not something your customers would like to hear.
If it is your data center, meaning you are a kind of ISP still everybody who has physical access to the data center can potentially sniff the clear text traffic. Or in general, anybody who has access to the wire can see the traffic, it is much harder to implement a strict access control in your company.
I'm working on p2p application intended for LAN. Users are supposed to connect directly to each other without any server. At the moment application works on Linux, but I think about porting it on Windows and Android.
At the moment I simply establish unencrypted TCP connection, which is fine in early development stage. Later I'd like to use secure channels and here's my question - how can I establish secure connection (assuring confidence and authentication like TLS) in distributed, p2p solution for LAN? Is it even possible?
I cannot use TLS, because I will not have any central server working as certificate authority. Moreover my LAN have no internet connection. Anonymous TLS is partial solution (will it work on Android?).
Because users will be in the same LAN, I may assume they will be e.g. sitting next to. Therefore they may "physically" authenticate themselves and e.g. share key or part of key (PIN)?
Let's say I want to make an application where stored data is encrypted so only my application is able to read it.
But I want the application to be accessed only if the user is on a particular network.
For instance the application is an Android app that deals with medical records in a hospital.
How to be sure that the device is connected to the network of the hospital ? The idea is that outside this network, the app won't work.
The question is not particularly related to wireless networks, wireless devices or Android, this is general to programming and network identification.
Could a certificate do that ? I'm new to this.
Does a network "identifier" could be faked ? For instance I'm pretty sure that a WiFi SSID is easy to fake.
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Let's assume that the point of the local data is not for an "offline mode", but to avoid network latency. In that case, the data needs to remain accessible only if connected to a particular network, in case the device is stolen.
But if there is no way to be sure of the network's identity... What about a server that would answer to the question "Heya am I on the right network ?" and if no response comes out I know that I'm not on the right one ? (Or that the server just does not respond...) But, again, if the app is hacked, that can be faked too.
Interesting problem.
Generally speaking the purpose of storing data locally is so that it can be accessed while "offline".
However, I think there may be some underlying misconceptions here. Presumably the only reason you'd want to do this is to try and prevent a stolen device from giving up it's secrets. Fact of the matter is, you can't. If the device is no longer under your physical control then it's just a matter of time before it can be hacked.
If we are talking about sensitive data, it shouldn't be stored on the devices. Instead the device should retrieve the data it needs from your server when it needs it and delete it locally when no longer necessary.
The fact that you want the device to only work when connected to your local network implies that you can accomplish this goal.
As a side note, this is why things such as "remote wipe" exist. It's also why every time the device connects to your network it needs to test it's authentication and authorization. Point is if someone reports the device lost or stolen then you need to be able to ban it from your network AND, if the device supports this, remotely disable it.
Bearing in mind that it is entirely possible to pull a device from the network and therefore disable a remote wipe from executing.
With that out of the way, there is absolutely no way you can ensure the device is on a given network. All of that can be faked. It's kind of trivial to setup a router of a given name and change it's MAC to masquerade as whatever, and assign it certain IP addresses. For all intents and purposes it could be made to look exactly like an access point you have... And that's just with normal run of the mill wireless routers you can buy at your local computer store.
You could write your program so that the key to decrypt the data is stored on a server on the hospital network. If your program never stores the key, it makes it harder (although not impossible) for someone to access the device's data outside of the network.
As Chris pointed out a remote wipe would definitely be desirable. You could put in logic so that if the device ever attempts to read the data while not connected to the network, it wipes the data (this might lead to unintended wipes). Blacklisting is good too, so that if the device tries to reconnect to the network, you can essentially brick it. One thing that would be really bad is if you have a network outage, and all your devices accidentally get wiped.
Any network can duplicate another's SSID, so that's not reliable. You could start using a combination of SSID and a MAC address of a known router, but MAC addresses can be duplicated (although not on the same network) so that doesn't work either.
Frankly, unless the wireless network in question is using certificates to identify devices you're going to have no reliable way do it it, and even then this supposes you have a way in your application to get the certificate used the wifi network returns during network authentication.
Perhaps you could use IPSec tunnels. Many routers and firewalls support IPSec. What I'm thinking is something like this:
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/ IPSec tunnel \
+---------+ \
A | IPSec | B Untrusted \
trusted network -------| capable |------- Networks ----------- Your application
| router | Internet, etc.
+---------+
The gateway router/firewall that provides access for the trusted network has an IPSec tunnel configured between itself and your application. On both the router and your application server, the tunnel looks like another network interface. A route on the router directs traffic for your application to the tunnel interface. A filter can be used on the router to ensure traffic is forwarded to the tunnel only if it arrives on interface A (i.e. the trusted network). Traffic arriving on interface B destined to your application can just be dropped by a filter on the router since it's obviously going the wrong way.
If your application binds its listening socket to just the tunnel interface, you'll know you're only accepting connections received over the tunnel.
You can use whatever combination of encryption and authentication mechanisms you want to to ensure the traffic is secure. Most IPSec implementations support just about anything you could want.
I'm developing an application that accepts connections from clients over the internet. All these clients are on fixed IP addresses and will establish a non-encrypted TCP connection.
The current plan is for the server to check which IP the connections come from and allow only client connections from a list of know IPs?
How safe is that against IP spoofing?
My reasoning is that since this is a TCP connection, an attacker couldn't just fake its sender IP (which is easy), but would have to assure that the packets travel back to him and thus he would have to hack all routers on the path, which seems rather hard.
I know I could use encryption, like SSH, but lets stick with the question of how safe the plain TCP connection would be.
Restricting connections by IP address is generally a good practice when practical, as it greatly reduces the attack surface and makes the complexity of an attack much higher. As stated in other answers, you would now have to do something like IP spoofing, or attacking the network itself (false BGP routes, etc).
That said, IP address restriction should be used as one layer of a defense-in-depth approach. Could you encrypt the TCP stream without too much rework? Maybe SSL? If you can't modify the program, how about the network? Site ti site IPSEC VPN tunnels are not difficult to establish, as almost any commercial firewall supports them. Even some soho routers can be modified to support IPSEC (with OpenWrt plus OpenSwan, for example).
Lastly, could you require the client and server to mutually authenticate?
Not safe. BGP gateways are not immune to attack, and with that, false routes can be advertised and IPs can be spoofed.
First of all, using the IP you are not identifying the client, but just some numbers. Even if the IP is right, there still can be a troyan on user's computer, authenticating in place of the user itself (as I don't know what kind of service you provide, I assume that this might make sense).
Now, if one has access to one of the routers via which the packets between the client and the server go, then he can do almost anything - he can send and receive packets in the name of the client or he can modify them (as the data goes unencrypted). Moreover, the attacker doesn't need to hack all or one of routers - he just needs to have access (including legitimate one) to the channel where the data goes, be it the router itself or the cable (which can be cut and the router can be inserted).
So to summarize, IP can be used as one of the component that hardens spoofing to some extent, but it can't be the main security measure.
I have an interesting network security challenge that I can't figure out the best way to attack.
I need to provide a way to allow two computers (A and B) that are behind firewalls to make a secure connection to each other using only a common "broker" untrusted server on the internet (somewhere like RackSpace). (the server is considered untrusted because the customers behind the firewalls won't trust it since it is on an open server) I can not adjust the firewall settings to allow the networks to directly connect to each other because the connections are no known ahead of time.
This is very similar to a NAT to NAT connection problem like that handled by remote desktop help tools (crossloop, copilot, etc).
What I would really like to find is a way to open an SSL connection between the two hosts and have the public server broker the connection. Preferably when host A tries to connect to host B, it should have to provide a token that the broker can check with host B before establishing the connection.
To add another wrinkle to this, the connection mechanism needs to support two types of communication. First, HTTP request/response to a REST web service and second persistent socket connection(s) to allow for real-time message passing.
I have looked at the techniques I know about like OpenSSL using certificates, OAuth, etc, but I don't see anything that quite does what I need.
Has anyone else handled something like this before? Any pointers?
You can solve your problem with plain SSL.
Just have the untrusted server forward connections between the client hosts as opaque TCP connections. The clients then establish an end-to-end SSL connection over that forwarded TCP tunnel - with OpenSSL, one client calls SSL_accept() and the other calls SSL_connect().
Use certificates, probably including client certificates, to verify that the other end of the SSL connection is who you expect it to be.
(This is conceptually similar to the way that HTTPS connections work over web proxies - the browser just says "connect me to this destination", and establishes an SSL connection with the desired endpoint. The proxy just forwards encrypted SSL data backwards and forwards, and since it doesn't have the private key for the right certificate, it can't impersonate the desired endpoint).
In general, SSL is packet-based protocol (for the purpose of solving your task). If you can have the host forward the packets back and forth, you can easily have SSL-secured communication channel. One thing you need is something like our SSL/TLS components, which allow any transport and not just sockets. I.e. the component tells your code "send this packet to the other side" or "do you have anything for me to receive?" and your code communicates with your intermediate server.