CSRF Requesting the nonce makes malicious POST possible? - security

I am trying to wrap my head around csrf protection and there is something I have trouble understanding. Maybe someone can give me the insight I need :).
What I understand
Say we have no csrf protection. Someone logs in to a website A with his/her credentials. After valid login a session cookie is stored in the browser. The user POSTS some data through a form and the sever accepts it with no trouble. Since we have no csrf protection this opens the system up for a vulnerability.
The user visits another website B, a malicious website like a phishing attempt. This website is posting to website A in the background with some javascript xhr request for example. The browser has the cookie stored for website A and since the user was logged in already this is a valid session. Therefore website A will accept the post without any trouble.
To solve this csrf protection comes in. Upon loading the page with the form on website A from the server a nonce (one time code) is generated. This code must be submitted with the form so the server can check if this post came from the same session that requested the form. If the code is the same as the one that was just generated the form is accepted. If the code is missing or incorrect, the server says no.
Question
If malicious website B first makes a get request to the page that renders the form. It would be able to fetch the token to send along with the post request afterwards. Right? Am I missing something obvious?
Thanks!

I understand that you concern is that a malicious website can request your anti-CSRF token.
You would need to prevent cross-origin reads or embedding of pages or endpoints that returns the CSRF tokens. One of the important things to keep in mind is that CORS don't provide CSRF protection, as preflight CORS requests are not always executed by the browser, for example when using regular html forms.
Most modern browsers block cross origin requests by default. When you do need cross origin requests for your own domains, can you do that by setting the correct Cross Origin headers, like Access-Control-Allow-Origin: sub.domain.com.
To prevent embedding in an iframe you can implement the X-Frame-Options: to DENY, or SAMEORIGIN.
You can find more information on https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Security/Same-origin_policy

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PHP Security - How does Facebook block login from other hosts?

I search alot about this topic but I didn't found any useful solutions.
How does Facebook detect that the host isn't Facebook even if the referrer and host can be faked in the request headers using curl or an HTML form in another website.
If you send the login POST parameters to https://m.facebook.com/login/ , Facebook will display a message : (For security reasons, don't login from website other than Facebook) and they block the login.
So how they can 100% sure that the request is made from Facebook.com?
Thank you.
They probably use a version of CSRF. Looking at the actual login form, there are 14 (fourteen!) hidden HTML fields in addition to the username and password. At least 4 of them look to me like a CSRF token. You would need to pull them all out of the home page and send them in with your login request. Tools like curl can send such a complete request, but you will still need to retrieve all the fields yourself.
CSRF is a way of preventing (or at least making very very difficult) a website from being POSTed to from a page not on its own website. The usual way of implementing it is to create a one-time-use token, store it sever-side in the session and also put it on the web page. If the HTTP POST omits the token, then the POST is not accepted. Reload the page with the form and the token is re-generated. Some sites have an expiry for the token, too - that is, it will only work for a short time, such as 10 minutes.
BTW, this has nothing to do with PHP. CSRF support is in many many frameworks in many languages and it's not difficult to build it yourself.

How to deny outside post requests?

I would like in Liferay to allow only logged in users to do post requests, and at the same time deny other Post request sources, like from Postman, for example.
With the caveat that I am not familiar with Liferay itself, I can tell you that in a general Web application what you are asking is impossible.
Let's consider the problem in its simplest form:
A Web application makes POST requests to a server
The server should allow requests only from a logged-in user using the Web application
The server is stateless - that is, each request must be considered atomically. There is no persistent connection and no state is preserved at the server.
So - let's consider what happens when the browser makes a POST:
An HTTP connection is opened to the server
The HTTP headers are sent, including any site cookies that have previously been set by the server, and special headers like the User Agent and referrer
The form data is posted to the server
The server processes the request and returns a response
How does the server know that the user is logged in? In most cases, this is done by checking a cookie that is sent with the request and verifying that it is correct - cryptographically signed, for instance.
Now let's consider a Postman request. Exactly what is the difference between a request submitted through Postman and one submitted through the browser? None. There is no difference. It is trivially simple to examine and retrieve the cookies sent on a legitimate request from the browser, and include those headers in a faked Postman request.
Let's consider what you might do to prevent this.
1. Set and verify extra cookies - won't work because we can still retrieve those cookies just like we did with the login session
2. Encrypt the connection so the cookies can't be captured over the wire - won't work because I can capture the cookies from the browser
3. Check the User Agent to ensure that it is sent by a browser - won't work because I can spoof the headers to any value I want
4. Check the Referrer to ensure the request came from a valid page on my site (this is part of a Cross-Site Request Forgery mitigation) - won't work because I can always spoof the Referrer to any value I want
5. Add logic (JavaScript) into the page to compute some validity token - won't work because I can still read the JavaScript (it's client-side) and fake my own token
By the very nature of the Web system, this problem is insoluble. Because you (the server/application writer) do not have complete control over both sides of the communication, it is always possible to spoof requests from the client. The best you can do is prevent arbitrary requests from arbitrary users who do not have valid credentials. However, any request that includes the correct security tokens must be considered valid, whether it is generated from a browser/web page or crafted by hand or through some other application. At best, you will needlessly complicate your application for no significant improvement in security. You can prevent CSRF attacks and some other injection-type attacks, but because you as the client can always read whatever is sent from the server and can always craft your own requests, you can always provide a valid request.
Clarification
Can you please explain exactly what you are trying to accomplish? Are you trying to disable guest access completely, even through "valid" referrers (a user actually submitting a form) or are you trying to prevent post requests coming from other referrers?
If you are just worried about referrer forgeries you can set the following property in your portal-ext.properties file.
auth.token.check.enabled = true
If you want to remove all permissions for the guest role you can simply go into the portal's control panel, go into Configuration and then into the permissions table. Unchecked the entire row associated with guest.
That should do it. If you can't find those permissions post your exact Liferay version.

How to enforce same origin policy in Express.js?

Suppose I have the following URL route:
app.post('upvote', function(req, res) {
// make a database a call to increase vote count
});
What can I do to prevent others from opening up a console and sending AJAX POST request on www.mysite.com/upvote? I'd like it so that only www.mysite.com is allowed to make that POST request and no one else.
What can I do to prevent others from opening up a console and sending AJAX POST request
Who is "others"?
If others==users of the site... there is nothing you can do to stop them sending whatever requests they like, using the JavaScript console or any other means. You can't trust the client, so you have to have server-side authorisation: requiring that the user be logged into an account, and registering that the account has upvoted so can't vote again.
If others==admins of other sites (by serving script to their users that causes submissions to your site)... it isn't possible for JavaScript on another site to cause an AJAX POST request, or at least not unless you deliberately opt into that using CORS. But it's quite possible for them to cause a POST by simply creating a <form> pointing to your address and submitting it.
This is a classic Cross Site Request Forgery problem. The widely-accepted solution to XSRF issues is to include a secret token as a parameter in each POST (form or AJAX) submission. That secret token is associated with the logged-in state of the user, either by being stored in the server-side session, or replicated in a client-side cookie. Either way an attacker from another site isn't capable of getting hold of a token that is valid for the logged-in user, so they can't fake the request.
You need XSRF protection on all actions that have a direct effect, whether AJAX or form-based POSTs.
I agree with bobince. others is a very general term.
If others belong to other sites (malicious sites on net).
express has csrf middleware to protect from Cross Site Request
Forgery. You can use it to prevent such a scenario. See the API docs
here.
If others are users of your own site
then that is an authentication issue. Every request must be
checked before serving / executing it. You should implement a user
authentication to prevent this situation. I use passport, and
ensure that user is authenticated before I actually run app.post
handler.

What stops someone from reading CSRF tokens in form inputs with JS

Most frameworks I've looked at will insert into forms a hidden input element with the value being a CSRF token. This is designed to prevent user Bob from logging in on my site and then going to http://badsite.com which embeds img tags or JS that tell my site to execute requests using Bob's still logged in session.
What I'm not getting is what stops JS on badsite.com from AJAX requesting a URL with a form on my site, regex-ing the CSRF token from the hidden input element, and then AJAX posting to my site with that valid CSRF token?
It seems to me that you'd want to use JS to insert the CSRF token into the form at runtime, pulling the value from a cookie (which is inaccessible to badsite.com). However, I've not heard this approach mentioned and so many frameworks do the simple hidden input with the CSRF token, I'm wondering if my solution is over-engineered and I'm missing some part of what makes the hidden input method secure.
Can anyone provide some clarity? Thanks!
what stops JS on badsite.com from AJAX requesting a URL with a form on my site
The Same Origin Policy (unless you subvert it with overly liberal CORS headers). JavaScript running on a site can't read data from a site hosted on a different host without permission from that host.
There are workarounds to the SOP, but they all either require the co-operation of the host the data is being read from (JSON-P, CORS), or don't pass any data that identifies a specific user (so can't access anything that requires authorisation).

Isn't CSRF a browser security issue?

Regarding cross-site request forgery (CSRF) attacks, if cookies are most used authentication method, why do web browsers allow sending cookies of some domain (and to that domain) from a page generated from another domain?
Isn't CSRF easily preventable in browser by disallowing such behavior?
As far as I know, this kind of security check isn't implemented in web browsers, but I don't understand why. Did I get something wrong?
About CSRF:
On wikipedia
On coding horror
Edit: I think that cookies should not be sent on http POST in the above case. That's the browser behavior that surprises me.
Why wouldn't the browser send cookies?
Site A (http://www.sitea.com) sets a cookie for the user.
User navigates to site B (http://www.siteb.com). Site B features integration with site A - click here to do something on site A! The users clicks "here".
As far as the browser can tell, the user is making a conscious decision to make a request to site A, so it handles it the same way it would handle any request to site A, and that includes sending site A cookies in the request to site A.
Edit: I think the main issue here is that you think there is a distinction between authentication cookies and other cookies. Cookies can be used to store anything - user preferences, your last high score, or a session token. The browser has no idea what each cookie is used for. I want my cookies to always be available to the site that set them, and I want the site to make sure that it takes the necessary precautions.
Or are you saying that if you search yahoo for "gmail", and then click on the link that takes you to http://mail.google.com, you shouldn't be logged in, even if you told gmail to keep you logged in, because you clicked on the link from another site?
It isn't that a browser is sending the cookie to or from an outside domain, it's the fact that you're authenticated and the site isn't validating the source of the request, so it treats it as if the request came from the site.
As far as whether a browser should disallow that... what about the many situations where cross-site requests are desirable?
Edit: to be clear, your cookie is not sent across domains.
I don't know that there's much the browser can do in that situation since the point of an XSRF attack is to direct the browser to another point in the application that would perform something bad. Unfortunately, the browser has no idea whether or not the request it's being directed to send is malicious or not. For example, given the classic example of XSRF:
<img src="http://domain.com/do_something_bad" />
it's not apparent to the browser that something bad is happening. After all, how is it to know the difference between that and this:
<img src="http://domain.com/show_picture_if_authenticated" />
A lot of the old protocols have big security holes -- think back to the recently-discovered DNS vulnerabilities. Like basically any network security, it's the responsibility of the end-points; yeah, it sucks that we have to fix this ourselves, but it's a lot harder to fix at the browser level. There are some obvious ones (<img src="logoff.php"> looks damn fishy, right?), but there will always be edge cases. (Maybe it's a GD script in a PHP file after all.) What about AJAX queries? And so on...
The cookies for a site are never sent to another site. In fact, to implement a successful CSRF attack, the attacker does not need to have access to these cookies.
Basically, an attacker tricks the user, who is already logged in to the target website, into clicking a link or loading an image that will do something on the target site with that user's credentials.
I.e., the user is performing the action, and the attacker has tricked the user into doing so.
Some people have said they don't think there's a lot the browser can do.
See this:
http://people.mozilla.org/~bsterne/content-security-policy/origin-header-proposal.html
It's an overview of a proposal for a new HTTP header to help mitigate CSRF attacks.
The proposed header name is "Origin" and it's basically the "Referer" header minus the path, etc.

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