I may have a couple assumptions of Linux incorrect about the Linux system, and for that I apologize.
I have been educating myself on the Android and Linux systems for a while now and I started looking into installing a custom boot loader and Linux system onto an older Samsung tablet. Immediately upon looking into the feasibility of this, most of the answers I could find were that it wasn't possible because you would need the drivers that are being used by the android kernel to communicate with the OEM hardware in whatever Linux kernel you are installing.
I have one of these tablets rooted and I believe I may have found the drivers I need (not sure on that yet), and so I guess my question is, is it possible to take the drivers and put them into a Linux kernel within a distribution install image and install Linux on the device (using also a custom boot loader)?
I presume because someone hasn't done this before there is a pretty good reason why, but I am basically looking to be able to use Linux on my old tablet without the resources being taken from Android, and personally in my opinion, if I don't need Android and can install Linux straight on to the machine, then why keep it?
In the long run I am looking into LFS to create a custom distribution that can be installed on these tablets, but the most important question to me right now is if I do create this distribution can I get the drivers that the hardware needs (and even then will my kernel be able to use them?).
I also understand that some of these drivers may be proprietary drivers provided by the manufacturer, but I am not looking to profit off of this but instead research the feasibility of a better personal on-the-go computing setup.
I may be terribly wrong on how I may have described some things, so here are some of my assumptions:
The .ko files in the Android /lib/modules/ directory are the static kernel drivers I am looking for for that device.
The drivers aren't written for specifically the Android system, but for all Linux variants and would be compatible with another distribution.
If the drivers were written for the Android system, then one would be able to edit or modify those drivers to work with a different distribution.
One could "put the drivers into an installation image", or if not, then one would have to compile the kernel from source with those static drivers.
TL:DR, If this all just amounts to rambling, here are my specific questions:
Is it possible to copy the static kernel drivers of a rooted Android device to something like the SDcard?
Is it then possible to "put" or "compile" those same static drivers into a Linux distribution before installing it onto said tablet using something like Odin, or the like?
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Hi i have an application written in GTK and i would like to make it into an bootable ISO file.
I have tried many options but have failed and being sent in many directions using cmake and make by following several tutorials which did not work.
Does anybody know how to create an bootable ISO file for / from an GTK based application on linux / ubuntu?
I am currently using ubuntu to develop the bootloading application yet i would prefer the GTK application to startup when the computer starts up, and have no operating system running if possible?
GTK requires an operating system kernel (a Linux kernel...) to be running, and some display server, e.g. Xorg.
So you need to actually make your custom Linux distribution.
I would prefer the GTK application to startup when the computer starts up, and have no operating system running
This is not possible
But you could study the source code of source based Linux distributions like Gentoo and work for several months to make your own Linux distribution.
You probably would need help and address many issues you did not even thought of (e.g. AZERTY keyboard layout, computers with only USB disks, laptops with only Wifi network connections, etc...)
Notice that Debian & Ubuntu can be configured to boot some (open source) GTK based installation procedure. I guess you could study in details their implementation (since it is open source)
It's not possible to boot a GTK application without operating system, as Basile Starynkevitch said.
However, you can use Linux to display only your GTK distribution, without any additional programs and I think it can be done easier, than Starynkevitch's method.
You can try to use the tool Systemback or similar to create a bootable live Linux distribution. Systemback is not maintained anymore but there is a github fork made by BluewhaleRobot that appears to be more up-to-date.
You can install a light Linux distribution, for example Xubuntu, and remove all unnecessary packages and programs. You can set the wallpaper, remove or leave the taskbar/menu start etc. Then, install your GTK application, add it to autorun and use Systemback's "Live system create" function.
The ISO image should be created and your program should be already installed in it with autorun.
It's not a perfect and stable solution, however, it seems to be the easiest way to achieve what you want.
I want to write a driver for sensor which can tell me if my yoga 2 pro is in tablet mode or not.
I read some about writting modules but as far as I know, I need to know address in memory which belongs to this device (hope it's correct), and here is my question.
How can I find information about this address?
Or what should I do to find this address?
Both in Windows and in Android you absolutely don't need to write a driver for this purpose. To identify Tablet/Laptop mode, you need just one sensor - accelerometer. In Windows 8.1 + this functionality is built-in, but in case you wish to build your own application you can use an example from here: https://code.msdn.microsoft.com/windowsapps/Accelerometer-Sensor-Sample-22982671
In Android, you have a Java API to all sensors:
https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/sensors/sensors_overview.html
However if you have a custom Linux installed on your Yoga, there indeed may arise a need to add a driver. As of now, the most useful solution are IIO drivers that are part of Kernel:
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/sites/events/files/slides/lceu15_baluta.pdf
If there aren't already there, you'll have to rebuild a Kernel and include those drivers. If you don't know how to find a device address, you have to learn for a while about Linux Kernel in general. Anyway, some tips:
Sensors are normally defined via USB/HID interface
If you still have your Windows along with Linux, you may go to
Devices Manager and there you can easily reach Sensors and see what
address is used by a driver.
I'm complety new to this but I finally got around to building a Linux kernel so far so good. I am following a guide here:
A10-OLinuXino-LIME
My problem/concern is now I am in a .config menu and I've been searching online to no avail to determine what does it mean by a modularizes features verse includes, like should I switch to if I want those features to be there?
Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated it! I'm primarily doing this to include WiFi usb drivers I will be needing.
It depends on what system you run this kernel. If it's an embedded system, then you will probably be more concerned about memory benefits. In RAM you can win about several Kbytes per module. For the devices are not represented in the system/hardware, it then has a sense to put some drivers on Modules. Some modules can be taking more time when the kernel starts, and it is probably better to load them later, when the system is running.
You will probably be concerned about disk space, if you put some stuff Compiled-in so you can have a benefit because you don't need to have a module loading utility.
Have a look at this thread as well
I'm primarily doing this to include WiFi usb drivers I will be needing.
Its not necessary to build the complete kernel unless to build a USB WiFi driver. All you need is the kernel headers installed. From make menuconfig select the module you want to build, choose M, save the .config. This will build a module which can be loaded, instead of getting compiled as a part of the vmlinux image.
I am new to linux programming & interested to tweak linux kernel(though I am not sure, what to tweak, I am planning to write drivers for particular device). To learn internal of kernel, I have started from historic kernel release (first release).
My problem is, how to test whatever changes I am doing for development, without disturbing my current os environment.(ubuntu 12, 64 bit). Is there any way like virtual box, sandbox?
Along with these, if anybody send some good approaches to learn these things, I would be really greatful.
Thank You.
If you're new to linux programming then you really don't want to be tweaking the kernel. You really want to be an advanced programmer capable of programming drivers and complex software first.
But yes there is, you can can create a virtual machine using openbox or vmware. If you're really keen on tweaking the kernel you probably want to first just try compiling and configuring the kernel and seeing if that works.
Also make sure you're well acquainted with how the kernel works and advanced OS designs in general.
Search in google fr "Kernel configuration" you u will get many links how to configure your own kernel.
And one more thing do not use a outdated version of kernel ,always use latest stable release , because a lot of code and API is changed in new versions and no book in market is updated so ,, u have to read from kernel documentation. Thats the best way to learn the most updated information about linux kernel
Yes, you can test your changes on any of the commonly available virtual machines (VMs); that way, whatever changes you make to the VM kernel won't affect native OS.
Personally, I prefer using CentOS 64 bit on VMWare Player. With this setup, I got away with minimal system maintenance while was able to focus on the actual job at hand. Once the VM is up & running, you can download and compile one of the latest stable releases from kernel.org. Instructions on compiling your downloaded version of kernel could be found here and here; however, this may require little tweaking based on your actual setup. Once the VM is running on your desired version of kernel, using a combination of cscope and ctags will help you immensely in kernel code browsing.
Finally, if you want to become a serious kernel programmer and write your own device drivers, you need to get familiar with it in the first place. Below are a few excellent references -
Linux Device Driver by Corbet, Rubini, Kroah-Hartman, 3rd edition
Linux Kernel Development by Robert Love, 3rd edition
Understanding the Linux Kernel by Bovet, Cesati
Linux kernel source (ideally placed into your /usr/src/$(DESIRED_KERNEL) path, symlinked to /usr/src/linux)
Going through these books is a tedious job and chances are that you may hit the roadblock from time to time. kernelnewbies mailing list and StackOverflow are some of the few reliable places where people would be happy to answer to your queries.
Good luck!
I am compiling my own Linux kernel and userland tools for a PXE environment meant for cloning and reimaging. Right now, I'm sticking to a specific kernel version and using preconfigured .config's for building the Linux kernel.
I need to change from using preconfigured .config's to automatically generating the default configuration for the specified architecture, and then enabling all ethernet, ATA, SATA, and SCSI drivers.
The reason I want to do this is:
Updating the kernel means updating the preconfigured .config's, which takes too much time to manually do. The way I'm doing it now is using menuconfig, enabling the options I need, and saving the resulting .config to my repository.
I know the kernel I'm building is missing some drivers because I've encountered some PC's that were not able to mount the NFS share because Linux could not find an ethernet device (which I've verified by booting an Ubuntu CD, which did find the ethernet device). I want an automated way of building any Linux kernel version that will guarantee that ALL drivers I need are pulled in.
Using a distribution's configuration pulls in too many unnecessary drivers and features for my purposes. It lengthens the kernel build time from 10-15 mintues to an hour or more, and the resulting image is too big.
Does anyone know how to write a Bash script to accomplish this?
Have you considered using a text editor to modify the .config file.
Then you can modify it using search and replace.
Plus, there are other choices for configuring the kernel than the menu-driven "menuconfig".