I am searching for an answer on how to create and pass through a raw device to a VM using proxmox. Through that I am hoping to have full control of the disk including S.M.A.R.T. stats and disk spindown.
Currently I am using passthrough using the SATA passthrough offered by proxmox.
Unfortunately I have no clue how to create a raw disk file from my (empty) disk). Furthermore I am not entirely certain on how to bind it to the VM.
I hope someone knows the relevant steps.
Side notes:
This question is just a measure I want to try out to achieve a certain goal. For the sake of simplicity I posed my question confined to the part above. However, if you have a better idea, feel free to give me a hint. So far I have tried a lot of things to achieve my ultimate goal.
Goal that I want to achieve:
I am using Proxmox VE 5.3-8 on a HP Proliant Gen 8 server. It hosts several VMs among which OMV should serve as a NAS. Since the files will not be accessed too often, I opt for a spindown of the drives.
My goal is reduction of noise and power savings.
Current status:
I passed through two disks by adding them to
/etc/pve/nodes/pve/qemu-server/vmid.conf
sata1: /dev/disk/by-id/{disk-id}
Through that I do see SMART stats and everything except disk spindown works fine. Using virtio instead of SATA does not give me SMART values.
using hdparm -y to put a drive to sleep does not work inside the VM. Doing the same on the proxmox console result in a sleep, but it wakes up a few seconds later.
Passing through the entire HBA is currently not an option.
I read in a forum that first installing Debian and then manually installing the proxmox packages resulted in a success. However that was still for Debian jessie and three years ago.
Install Proxmox VE on Debian Stretch
Before I try this as a last resort, I want to make sure if passing the disk through as a raw file will lead to the result.
Maybe someone has an idea on how to achieve my ultimate goal.
I do not have a clear answer to your question, as per "passing through" the disk, but i recently found a good enough solution for my use case.
I have an HDD that i planned to use as a backup dir for VMs, but i also wanted to put any kind of data on it, and share that disk with any VM that would like to.
The solution i found is to format the disk using ZFS, then creating mount points for different usage (vzdump backup, shared nas folder accross VMs + ISO mounting point etc...). I followed this guide: https://forum.level1techs.com/t/how-to-create-a-nas-using-zfs-and-proxmox-with-pictures/117375
I ended up installing samba on proxmox host itself, with a config to share some folder/mount point of the disk, via SMB. Now the device appears as a normal disk over the network, with excellent read/write speed as everything is local.
Sorry that this post does not "answer" your question (no SMART data or things low level like that :'( ) BUT shared storage ^^'
I have a slight problem bit of the back story. recently ive been trying to test out univention which is a linux distribution with the goal of being able to replace Microsoft active directory.
I tested it locally and all went reasonably well after a few minor issues i then decided to test it remotely as the company wants to allow remote users to access this so i used myhyve.com to host it and its now been setup successfully and works reasonably well.
however
my main problem is DNS based as when trying to connect to the domain the only way windows will recognize it is by editing the network adapter and setting ip v4 dns server address to the ip address of the server hosting the univention active directory replacement. although this does allow every thing to work its not ideal and dns look up on the internet are considerably longer. i was wondering if any one had any ideas or have done something similar and encountered this problems before and know a work around. i want to avoid setting up a vpn if possible.
after initially registering the computer on the domain i am able to remove the dns server address and just use a couple of amendments to the HOST file to keep it running but this still leads to having issues connecting to the domain controller sometimes and is not ideal. any ideas and suggestions would be greatly received.
.Michael
For the HOST entries, the most likely issue is, that there are several service records a computer in the domain needs. I'm not sure, whether these can be provided via the HOST file or not but you'll definitely have authentication issues if they are missing. To see the records your domain is using issue the following commands on the UCS system.
/usr/share/univention-samba4/scripts/check_essential_samba4_dns_records.sh
For the slow resolution of the DNS records there are several points where you could start looking. My first test would be whether or not you are using a forwarder for the web DNS requests and whether or not the forwarder is having a decent speed. To check if you are using one, type
ucr search dns/forwarder
If you get a valid IP for either of the UCR Variables, dns/forwarder1, dns/forwarder2 or dns/forwarder3, you are forwarding your DNS requests to a different Server. If all of them are empty or not valid IPs then your server is doing the resolution itself.
Not using a forwarder is often slow, as the DNS servers caching is optimized for the AD operations, like the round robin load balancing. Likewise a number of ISPs require you to use a forwarder to minimize the DNS traffic. You can simply define a forwarder using ucr, I use Google on IPv4 for the example
ucr set dns/forwarder1='8.8.8.8'
The other scenario might be a slow forwarder. To check it try to query the forwarder directly using the following command
dig univention.com #(ucr get dns/forwarder1)
If it takes long, then there is nothing the UCS server can do, you'll simply have to choose a different forwarder from the ucr command above.
If neither of the above helps, the next step would be to check whether there are error messages for the named daemon in the syslog file. Normally these come when you are trying to manually remove software or if the firewall configuration got changed.
Kevin
Sponsored post, as I work for Univention North America, Inc.
Hi it's a question and it may be redundant but I have a hunch there is a tool for this - or there should be and if there isn't I might just make it - or maybe I am barking up the wrong tree in which case correct my thinking:
But my problem is this: I am looking for some way to migrate large virtual disk drives off a server once a week via an internet connection of only moderate speed, in a solution that must be able to be throttled for bandwidth because the internet connection is always in use.
I thought about it and the problem is familar: large files that can moved that also be throttled that can easily survive disconnection/reconnection/large etc etc - the only solution I am familiar with that just does it perfectly is torrents.
Is there a way to automatically strategically make torrents and automatically "send" them to a client download list remotely? I am working in Windows Hyper-V Host but I use only Linux for the guests and I could easily cook up a guest to do the copying so consider it a windows or linux problem.
PS: the vhds are "offline" copies of guest servers by the time I am moving them - consider them merely 20-30gig dum files.
PPS: I'd rather avoid spending money
Bittorrent is an excellent choice, as it handles both incremental updates and automatic resume after connection loss very well.
To create a .torrent file automatically, use the btmakemetainfo script found in the original bittorrent package, or one from the numerous rewrites (bittornado, ...) -- all that matters is that it's scriptable. You should take care to set the "disable DHT" flag in the .torrent file.
You will need to find a tracker that allows you to track files with arbitrary hashes (because you do not know these in advance); you can either use an existing open tracker, or set up your own, but you should take care to limit the client IP ranges appropriately.
This reduces the problem to transferring the .torrent files -- I usually use rsync via ssh from a cronjob for that.
For point to point transfers, torrent is an expensive use of bandwidth. For 1:n transfers it is great as the distribution of load allows the client's upload bandwidth to be shared by other clients, so the bandwidth cost is amortised and everyone gains...
It sounds like you have only one client in which case I would look at a different solution...
wget allows for throttling and can resume transfers where it left off if the FTP/http server supports resuming transfers... That is what I would use
You can use rsync for that (http://linux.die.net/man/1/rsync). Search for the --partial option in man and that should do the trick. When a transfer is interrupted the unfinished result (file or directory) is kept. I am not 100% sure if it works with telnet/ssh transport when you send from local to a remote location (never checked that) but it should work with rsync daemon on the remote side.
You can also use that for sync in two local storage locations.
rsync --partial [-r for directories] source destination
edit: Just confirmed the crossed out statement with ssh
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What is a good, secure, method to do backups, for programmers who do research & development at home and cannot afford to lose any work?
Conditions:
The backups must ALWAYS be within reasonably easy reach.
Internet connection cannot be guaranteed to be always available.
The solution must be either FREE or priced within reason, and subject to 2 above.
Status Report
This is for now only considering free options.
The following open-source projects are suggested in the answers (here & elsewhere):
BackupPC is a high-performance,
enterprise-grade system for backing
up Linux, WinXX and MacOSX PCs and
laptops to a server's disk.
Storebackup is a backup utility
that stores files on other disks.
mybackware: These scripts were
developed to create SQL dump files
for basic disaster recovery of small
MySQL installations.
Bacula is [...] to manage
backup, recovery, and verification
of computer data across a network of
computers of different kinds. In
technical terms, it is a network
based backup program.
AutoDL 2 and Sec-Bk: AutoDL 2
is a scalable transport independant
automated file transfer system. It
is suitable for uploading files from
a staging server to every server on
a production server farm [...]
Sec-Bk is a set of simple utilities
to securely back up files to a
remote location, even a public
storage location.
rsnapshot is a filesystem
snapshot utility for making backups
of local and remote systems.
rbme: Using rsync for backups
[...] you get perpetual incremental
backups that appear as full backups
(for each day) and thus allow easy
restore or further copying to tape
etc.
Duplicity backs directories by
producing encrypted tar-format
volumes and uploading them to a
remote or local file server. [...]
uses librsync, [for] incremental
archives
simplebup, to do real-time backup of files under active development, as they are modified. This tool can also be used for monitoring of other directories as well. It is intended as on-the-fly automated backup, and not as a version control. It is very easy to use.
Other Possibilities:
Using a Distributed Version Control System (DVCS) such as Git(/Easy Git), Bazaar, Mercurial answers the need to have the backup available locally.
Use free online storage space as a remote backup, e.g.: compress your work/backup directory and mail it to your gmail account.
Strategies
See crazyscot's answer
I prefer http://www.jungledisk.com/ .
It's based on Amazon S3, cheap, multiplatform, multiple machines with a single license.
usb hard disk + rsync works for me
(see here for a Win32 build)
Scott Hanselman recommends Windows Home Server in his aptly titled post
The Case of the Failing Disk Drive or Windows Home Server Saved My Marriage.
First of all: keeping backups off-site is as important for individuals as it is for businesses. If you house burns down, you don't want to loose everything.
This is especially true because it is so easy to accomplish. Personally, I have an external USB harddisk I keep at my fathers house. Normally, it is hooked up to his internet connections and I backup over the net (using rsync), but when I need to backup really big things, I collect it and copy things over USB. Ideally, I should get another disk, to spread the risk.
Other options are free online storage facilities (use encryption!).
For security, just use TrueCrypt. It has a good name in the IT world, and seems to work very well.
Depends on which platform you are running on (Windows/Linux/Mac/...?)
As a platform independent way, I use a personal subversion server. All the valuables are there, so if I lose one of the machines, a simple 'svn checkout' will take things back. This takes some initial work, though, and requires discipline. It might not be for you?
As a second backup for the non-svn stuff, I use Time Machine, which is built-in to OS X. Simply great. :)
I highly recommend www.mozy.com. Their software is easy and works great, and since it's stored on their servers you implicitly get offsite backups. No worrying about running a backup server and making sure it's working. Also, the company is backed by EMC (a leading data storage product company), so gives me enough confidence to trust them.
I'm a big fan of Acronis Trueimage.Make sure you rotate through a few backup HDDs to you have a few generations to go back to, or if one of the backups goes bang. If it's a major milestone I snail-mail a set of DVDs to Mum and she files em for me. She lives in a different state so it should cover most disasters of less-than-biblical proportions.
EDIT: Acronis has encryption via a password. I also find the bandwidth of snailmail to be somewhat infinite - 10GB overnight = 115 kb/s, give or take. Never been throttled by Australia Post.
My vote goes for cloud storage of some kind. The problem with nearly all 'home' backups is they stay in the home, that means any catastrophic damage to the system being backed up will probably damage the backups as well (fire, flood etc). My requirements would be
1) automated - manual backups get forgotten, usually just when most needed
2) off-site - see above
3) multiple versions - that is backup to more than one thing, in case that one thing fails.
As a developer, usually data sizes for backup are relatively small so a couple of free cloud backup accounts might do. They also often fulfil part 1 as they can usually be automated. I've heard good things about www.getdropbox.com/.
The other advantage of more than 1 account is you could have one on 'daily sync' and another on 'weekly sync' to give you some history. This is nowhere near as good as true incremental backups.
Personally I prefer a scripted backup (to local hard-drives, which I rotate to work as 'offsites'. This is in large part due to my hobby (photography) and thus my relatively lame internet upstream bandwith not coping with the data volume.
Take home message - don't rely on one solution and don't assume that your data is not important enough to think about the issues as deeply as the 'Enterprise' does.
Buy a fire-safe.
This is not just a good idea for storing backups, but a good idea period.
Exactly what media you put in it is the subject of other answers here.
But, from the perspective of recovering from a fire, having a washable medium is good. As long as the temperature doesn't get too high CDs and DVDs seem reasonably resilient, although I'd be concerned about smoke damage.
Ditto for hard-drives.
A flash drive does have the benefit that there are no moving parts to be damaged and you don't need to be concerned about the optical properties.
mozy.com is king. I started using it just to backup code and then ponied up the 5 bux a month to backup my personal pictures and other stuff that I'd rather not lose if the house burns down. The initial backup can take a little while but after that you can pretty much forget about it until you need to restore something.
Get an external hard drive with a network port so you can keep your backups in another room which provides a little security against fire in addition to being a simple solution you can do yourself at home.
The next step is to get storage space in some remote location (there are very cheap monthly prices for servers for example) or to have several external hard drives and periodically switch between the one at home and a remote location. If you use encryption, this can be anywhere such as a friend's or parents' place or work.
Bacula is a good software, it's open source, and shall give good performance, kind of commercial software, a bit difficult the first time to configure, but not so hard. It has good documentation
I second the vote for JungleDisk. I use it to push my documents and project folders to S3. My average monthly bill from amazon is about 20c.
All my projects are in Subversion on an external host.
As well as this, I am on a Mac, so I use SuperDuper to take a nightly image of my drive. I am sure there are good options in the Windows/Linux world.
I have two external drives that I rotate on a weekly basis, and I store one of the drives off-site during it's week off.
This means that I am only ever 24 hours away from an image in case of failure, and I am only 7 days from an image in case of catastrophic failure (fire theft). The ability to plug the drive in to a machine and be running instantly from the image has saved me immensely. My boot partition was corrupted during a power failure (not a hardware failure, luckily). I plugged the backup in, restored and was working again in the time it took to transfer the files of the external drive.
Another vote for mozy.com
You get 2gb for free, or for $5/month gives you unlimited backup space. Backups can occur on a timed basis, or when your PC/Mac is not busy. It's encrypted during transit and storage.
You can retrieve files via built in software, through the web or pay for a DVD to be burned and posted back.
William Macdonald
If you feel like syncing to the cloud and don't mind the initial, beta, 2GB cap, I've fallen in love with Dropbox.
It has versions for Windows, OSX, and Linux, works effortlessly, keeps files versioned, and works entirely in the background based on when the files changed (not a daily schedule or manual activations).
Ars Technica and Joel Spolsky have both fallen in love (though the love seems strong with Spolsky, but lets pretend!) with the service if the word of a random internet geek is not enough.
These are interesting times for "the personal backup question".
There are several schools of thought now:
Frequent Automated Local Backup + Periodic Local Manual Backup
Automated: Scheduled Nightly backup to external drive.
Manual: Copy to second external drive once per week / month / year / oops-forgot
and drop it of at "Mom's house".
Lot's of software in the field, but here's a few: There's RSync and TimeMachine on Mac, and DeltaCopy www.aboutmyip.com/AboutMyXApp/DeltaCopy.jsp for Windows.
Frequent Remote Backup
There are a pile of services that enable you to backup across you internet connection to a remote data centre. Amazon's S3 service + JungleDisk's client software is a strong choice these days - not the cheapest option, but you pay for what you use and Amazon's track record suggests as a company it will be in business as long or longer than any other storage providers who hang their shingle today.
Did I mention it should be encrypted? Props to JungleDisk for handling the "encryption issue" and future-proofing (open source library to interoperate with Jungle Disk) pretty well.
All of the above.
Some people call it being paranoid ... others think to themselves "Ahhh, I can sleep at night now".
Also, it's more fault-tolerance than backup, but you should check out Drobo - basically it's dead simple RAID that seems to work quite well.
Here are the features I'd look out for:
As near to fully automatic as possible. If it relies on you to press a button or run a program regularly, you will get bored and eventually stop bothering. An hourly cron job takes care of this for me; I rsync to the 24x7 server I run on my home net.
Multiple removable backup media so you can keep some off site (and/or take one with you when you travel). I do this with a warm-pluggable SATA drive bay and a cron job which emails me every week to remind me to change drives.
Strongly encrypted media, in case you lose one. The linux encrypted device support (cryptsetup et al) does this for me.
Some sort of point-in-time recovery, but consider carefully what resolution you want. Daily might be enough - having multiple backup media probably gets you this - or you might want something more comprehensive like Apple's Time Machine. I've used some careful rsync options with my removable drives: every day creates a fresh snapshot directory, but files which are unchanged from the previous day are hard linked instead of copied, to save space.
Or simply just set up a gmail account and mail it to yourself :) Unless you're a bit paranoid about google knowing about your stuff since you said research. It doesn't help you much with structure and stuff but it's free, big storage and off-site so quite safe.
If you use OS X 10.5 or above then the cost of Time Machine is the cost of an external hard drive. Not only that, but the interface is dead simple to use. Open the folder you wish to recover, click on the time machine icon, and browse the directory as if it was 1999 all over again!
I haven't tried to encrypt it, but I imagine you could use truecrypt.
Yes this answer was posted quite some time after the question was asked, however I believe it should help those who stumble across this posting in the future (like I did).
Setup a Linux or xBSD server:
-Setup a source control system of your choice on it.
--Mirror Raid (raid 1) at min
--Daily (or even hourly) backups to external drive[s].
From the server you could also setup an automatic offsite backup. If the internet is out, you'd still have your external drive and just have it auto sync once it comes back.
Once it's setup it should be about 0 work.
You don't need anything "fancy" for offsite backup. Get a webhost that allows storing non-web data. sync via sftp or rsync over ssh. Store data on other end in true crypt container if your paranoid.
If you work for an employeer/contractor also ask them. Most places already have something in place or let you work with their IT.
My vote goes to dirvish (for linux). It uses rsync as backend but is very easy to configure.
It makes automatic, periodically and differential backups of directories. The big benefit is, that it creates hardlinks to all files not changed since the last backup. So restore is easy: Just copy last created directory back - instead of restoring all diffs one after another like other differential backup tools need to do.
I have the following backup scenarios and use rsync scripts to store on USB and network shares.
(weekly) Windows backup for "bare metal" recovery
Content of System drive C:\ using Windows Backup for quick recovery after physical disk failure, as I don't want to reinstall Windows and applications from scratch. This is configured to run automatically using Windows Backup schedule.
(daily and conditional) Active content backup using rsync
Rsync takes care of all changed files from laptop, phone, other devices. I backup laptop every night and after significant changes in content, like import of the recent photo RAWs from SD card to laptop.
I've created a bash script that I run from Cygwin on Windows to start rsync: https://github.com/paravz/windows-rsync-backup
If you're using deduplicaiton STAY AWAY from JungleDisk. Their restore client makes a mess of the reparsepoint, and makes the file unusable. You hopefully can fix it in safe mode with:
fsutil reparsepoint delete