Excel VBA application.visible immediately set back to True - excel

Question

I have set up a new, empty, modeless userform, to fix my problem with the least amount of code involved.
For when the workbook is opened, the following code is executed to hide Excel and show the userform. It's the only code for the workbook.
Private Sub Workbook_Open()
UserForm1.Show
If Application.Windows.Count <> 1 Then
Application.Windows("test.xlsm").Visible = False
Else
Application.Visible = False
End If
End Sub
I have an empty userform with one single button. The only code for this userform is:
Private Sub CommandButton1_Click()
Application.Windows("test.xlsm").Visible = True
Application.Visible = True
Unload Me
End Sub
The last thing is a button on the first worksheet, to start the same process as when the workbook is opened. Its code:
Sub Button1_Click()
UserForm1.Show
If Application.Windows.Count <> 1 Then
Application.Windows("test.xlsm").Visible = False
Else
Application.Visible = False
End If
End Sub
Now my problem:
When I open the workbook, the userform shows up, but excel and the active window stay visible as well. However, if I click the button on the worksheet, Excel, or the window, are hidden as they should. Also, Excel, not the userform, has focus after loading everything.
The first time I ran this, it worked fine. I suspect changing the ShowModal setting in the editor screwed it up somehow, but that's just me guessing. Anyway, it doesn't work anymore as intended, no matter the modal setting now.
If I just run
Application.Visible = False
instead of the "if"-clause, Excel still stays visible and of course so does the active window.
This is driving me nuts.
What am I missing?
Edit: Link to my test file: Test File on my Dropbox
Might have to start it twice, because when the macros are blocked at startup and only activated after excel has completely loaded, the code works as intended.
Edit: I was able to test this on an excel 2010 pc and there the problem doesn't exist. So it might have something to do with the way newer Office Apps handle stuff.

Answer 1

I found myself having the exact same problem - modeless form opened with Workbook_Open() event that's also supposed to hide excel app (working on Excel 2016, 32bit).
The reason why it's working with UserForm property ShowModal set to True is because: the execution is suspended - it's waiting for user to interact with the UserForm that was shown.
If we change ShowModal to False (or call UserForm.Show vbModeless) then the execution is never suspended and once we reach End Sub of our Workbook_Open(), Excel appears to set Application.Visible = True on its own.
Only solution I've found thus far is this one - basically you suspend the execution by adding an infinite loop so Excel only gets to end of this event once you get rid of (Unload/Hide) the form that was shown previously.
My version looks like this:
Private Sub Workbook_Open()
Dim App As Object
Set App = startMenu
App.Show vbModeless
While App.Visible
DoEvents
Wend
End Sub
Then just to make sure that Excel is closed once that modeless UserForm is closed I've added this:
Private Sub UserForm_Terminate()
CloseApp
End Sub
Public Sub CloseApp()
ThisWorkbook.Saved = True
If Not OtherWorkbooksOpen Then
Application.Quit
Else
ThisWorkbook.Close
End If
End Sub
Public Function OtherWorkbooksOpen()
If Application.Workbooks.Count > 1 Then
OtherWorkbooksOpen = True
Else
OtherWorkbooksOpen = False
End If
End Function
EDIT:
Solution without infinite loop - schedule hiding of Excel:
Private Sub Workbook_Open()
Dim App As Object
Set App = startMenu
App.Show
If Not OtherWorkbooksOpen Then
Application.OnTime Now + TimeValue("00:00:01"), "HideExcel"
End If
End Sub

Answer 2

I think the userform1.show needs to be called after the execution of if statement.
Private Sub Workbook_Open()
If Application.Windows.Count <> 1 Then
Application.Windows("test.xlsm").Visible = False
Else
Application.Visible = False
End If
UserForm1.Show
End Sub

Answer 3

Not an answer, but I can't post this as a comment. This works for me - the user form appears, the application is hidden. I used "<>2" as I have a personal workbook. Can you confirm what happens for you?
Private Sub Workbook_Open()
If Application.Windows.Count <> 2 Then
Application.Windows("test.xlsm").Visible = False
Else
Application.Visible = False
End If
UserForm1.Show False
End Sub

Answer 4

I had the same issue, but I notice the form loads before the excel file. So I put a redundancy calling the application.visible = false, in the form.
Basically after clicking anything in the form, it will call the application.visible = false and the excel window will hide.