I'm trying to create a usb based ethernet device on my computer, basically I want to tell my computer (linux based) that one of its usb ports is actually an ethernet port. I have done extensive research and while it's supposed to be possible, I can't find any examples of code / commands to run.
According to wikipedia:
The USB-eth module in Linux makes the computer running it a variation of an Ethernet device that uses USB as the physical medium. It creates a Linux network interface, which can be assigned an IP address and otherwise treated the same as a true Ethernet interface. Any applications that work over real Ethernet interfaces will work over a USB-eth interface without modification, because they can't tell that they aren't using real Ethernet hardware.
So in theory, this should be possible, I just need some help or a gentle nudge in the right direction to get this thing rolling. What I'm NOT trying to do is plug a usb to ethernet dongle/adapter into my computer, I have several of those lying around and that doesn't help me out at all.
this is ethernet-over-usb
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet_over_USB
without external hardware you can try the CDCether kernel module and ethtool ( then you can only connect to a usb device that operates in usb device mode )
( https://developer.ridgerun.com/wiki/index.php/How_to_use_USB_device_networking , http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Motorola-Surfboard-Modem/usb.html, http://www.linux-usb.org/usbnet/ )
else you need a physical adapter for this. the adapter translates between the protocols and the different hardware interfaces.
in usb protocol can only be one host in a network, therefore you need at least a host-to-host cable ( http://www.linux-usb.org/usbnet/ ) if you want to connect two usb host devices, i.e. two pcs
required kernel module ( driver ) when using a physical adapter is either usbnet ( with its minidrivers ) or usb-eth
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What I want to do:
An AI program on a host machine, reading inputs from a camera sensing the screen of the target machine and outputting controls to the target machine via USB connection--programming the host machine's USB host as a USB peripheral connected to the target machine.
What I want to do step by step: (is it possible to implement the steps below?)
Have a host machine A and a target machine B.
Connect A and B with a USB 3.0 Type-A male-male cable.
The USB connection shows up as an HID keyboard device on B.
Write code to simulate key presses on A that sends to B.
(Eg. calling press('F') on a program running on A would type F to B's input)
It shouldn't require any program installed on B.
What I already searched:
USB 3.0 Host to host connection is possible:
https://superuser.com/questions/795053/how-do-i-connect-two-computers-using-usb-3-0
USB 2.0 Host to host connection is impossible:
https://superuser.com/questions/99274/how-to-connect-two-computers-with-usb
Similar questions asked without the assumption that USB 3.0 Host to Host connection is possible:
https://superuser.com/questions/1128365/simulate-usb-keyboard-from-machine
Setting up a computer to act as an HID device connected to another computer via ps/2,usb or another wired connection
https://superuser.com/questions/507921/computer-to-act-as-keyboard?rq=1
Suggestions in ascending order of feasibility:
USB Gadgets
You are using linux, so the default way would be to create/configure/load a gadget driver. Have a look at this tutorial, though for a raspberry, should work on your PC too. However, I could not find any information regarding the use of USB3 - the tutorial assumes your host is using one of it's OTG ports, which your PC most likely does not have. So whether this works with your USB3.1 Type-A-to-Type-A connection you'll need to test.
USBIP
The idea of sharing USB devices (not just keyboards) is not really new. With USBIP you can "export" any local USB device to the network, and your client will need the client-side USBIP driver to access the keyboard.
Dont bother with USB at all, just use Ethernet
I'd simply write two userland scripts/programs that send/receive+execute the keystrokes. Very easy to implement, you're probably familiar with python anyway.
If you absolutely cant have software installed on the client-PC and your Type-C-to-Type-C connection doesnt support USB Gadgets, there's another way. It basically involves the use of two USB-to-serial adapters (~15$) and a serial cable. While this wont be enumerated as a keyboard, but rather as serial port, it's the lowest-effort solution to transfer data without additional software on the client. Both computers will just do file I/O. If your computers still have COM-ports, you can even omit the serial converters!
A method to Connect / Disconnect a USB device "softly".
Hey, Assume I have a USB device connected to my PC, I want to enable/disable the port it is connected via computer so that I don't have to unplug/plug my device each time.
P.S : Device is a Microcontroller Board ( powered by USB port ) , so I don't want it to be active all the time. I want to deactivate it when appyling changes to code etc. and then activate that port so I can load my code into it again.
Is there a method to do so ?
Thanks in advance.
Device is a Microcontroller Board ( powered by USB port )
Most USB enabled µC types can "unplug" themself.
The idea is to put the USB data pins (usually called D+ and D-) into "output low" state for about one second at startup. This forces USB to be recognized as "disconnected".
After that is done, re-configure the pins to for their USB function and initialze the USB as usual.
Note that this method is not possible on old style boards that still use USB2UART chips instead of hardware USB inside the µC itself.
I am on debian and:
I have a USB controller hooked up to a USB port on my PC (Device 1).
I have a male to male USB cord hooked up to another port on the PC that connects to Device 2. (it is a "bridging" usb cord, and has the chip for it)
I want to make them connect to each other as if they were one cord, so neither device knows that there is a computer in the middle.
This would be called a 'Coupler', except that I am using a PC as a coupler.
Here is a (really bad) diagram I made:
What I have done:
I have been able to connect the two devices independently of each other and sniff the results for when they fail to connect. The devices don't send a large volume of data back and forth.
Maybe there is some kind of command tool that I could use, for example (psudocode):
$ couple-usb-ports PORT1 PORT2
You're trying to reinvent the wheel here.
You might consider looking at this link instead.
http://dan3lmi.blogspot.com/2012/10/sniffing-usb-traffic-different.html
Specifically this.
Windows: You cannot directly capture raw USB traffic on Windows with Wireshark/WinPcap, but it is possible to capture and debug USB traffic on a virtual Windows machine under Oracle Virtual Box.
You cannot use a simple PC as transparent USB sniffer without extra (expensive) hardware. An USB bus has always one host (and one or more devices), and the PC can only be the host. This is a hardware limitation.
But you can capture USB data in a Windows machine using Wireshark and USBPcap, eliminating the need for the middle box in most cases.
As this post is tagged Linux, I suppose the controller PC is a Linux machine. Instead of connecting USB ports with a male-male connector, which is all kinds of bad (you are connecting the 5V lines of both machine with each other!), just run Wireshark in the controller PC.
There might be a little work to be done previously, as you have to enable Wireshark for USB monitoring (Particularly in Debian, this is disabled by default), and you might have to install a small driver to enable the monitoring. Have a look at this page for more information.
Once you get it working, Wireshark is an excellent tool for this!
Is there a way to use one computer to send keystrokes to another by usb ?
What i'm looking to do is to capture the usb signal used by a keyboard (with USBTrace for example) and use it with PC-1 to send it to PC-2.
So that PC-2 reconize it as a regular keyboard input.
Some leads to do this would be very appreciated.
What you essentially need is a USB port on PC-1 that will act as a USB device for PC-2.
That is not possible for the vast majority of PC systems because USB is an asymmetric bus, with a host/device (or master/slave, if you wish) architecture. USB controllers (and their ports) on most PCs can only work in host mode and cannot simulate a device.
That is the reason that you cannot network computers through USB without a special cable with specialised electronics.
The only exception is if you somehow have a PC that supports the USB On-The-Go standard that allows for a USB port to act in both host and device mode. USB-OTG devices do exist, but they are usually embedded devices (smartphones etc). I don't know if there is a way to add a USB-OTG port to a commodity PC.
EDIT:
If you do not need a keyboard before the OS on PC-2 boots, you might be able to use a pair of USB Bluetooth dongles - one on each PC. You'd have to use specialised software on PC-1, but it is definitely possible - I've already seen a possible implementation on Linux, and I am reasonably certain that there must be one for Windows. You will also need Bluetooth HID drivers on PC-2, if they are not already installed.
On a different note, have you considered a purely software/network solution such as TightVNC?
There is a solution:
https://github.com/Flowm/etherkey
This uses a network connection from your computer to the raspi which is connected to a teensy (usb developer board) to send the key strokes.
This solution is not an out-of-the-box product. The required skill is similar to programming some other devices like arduino. But it's a complete and working setup.
The cheapest options are commercial microcontrollers (eg arduino platform, pic, etc) or ready built usb keyboard controllers (eg i-pac, arcade controllers,etc)
SEARCH THIS PROGRAM:
TWedge: Keyboard Wedge Software (RS232, Serial, TCP, Bluetooth)
then, MAKE YOUR OWN CONNECTION CABLE WITH:
(usb <-> rs232) + (NULL MODEM) + (rs232 <-> usb)
Connect 2 computer, write your own program to send signal to your (usb <-> rs232) unit, then you can control another computer under the help of TWedge.
The above mentionned https://github.com/Flowm/etherkey is one way. The keyboard is emulated from an rPi, but the principle can be used from PC to PC (or Mac to Whatever). The core answer to your question is to use an OTG-capable chip, and then you control this chip via a USB-serial adapter.
https://euer.krebsco.de/a-software-kvm-switch.html
uses a very similar method, using an Arduino instead of the Teensy.
The generic answer is: you need an OTG capable, or slave capable device: Arduino, Teensy, Pi 0 (either from Rapberry or Orange brands, both work; only the ZERO models are OTG capable), or, an rPi-A with heavy customisation (since it does not include USB hub, it can theoretically be converted into a slave; never found any public tutorial to do it), or any smartphone (Samsung, Nokia, HTC, Oukitel ... most smartphones are OTG capable). If you go for a Pi or a phone, then, you want to dig around USB Gadget. Cheaper solutions (Arduino/Teensy) need custom firmware.
I have a Linux virtual machine running on VMWare Fusion (on Mac OS X) that I intend to use as a development environment for an embedded system. Would it be possible for my Linux VM to talk to my embedded system's serial port using a USB-to-serial adapter? Any recommendations for what sort of adapter I should get?
There are two ways to do it:
Your host-OS supports your USB<->serial converter (very likely). If so you can just allow your VM to talk to the serial port. If so the VM will see a standard serial port and everything will be fine.
Your guest-os in the VM supports the USB<->serial converter, AND your host-OS allows raw USB forwarding.
All in all the chances are good that it works..
Btw: there are good and bad USB<->Serial converters. If you find out that the serial connection seems to work (everything detects/works as expected for a couple of seconds), but you can't get a reliable connection for a longer time, then it's very possible that the usb<->serial dongle sucks....
You get what you pay for... When buying these things I'd check comp.arch.embedded and ask which usb dongles are known to just work, and which not. (My recommendation is to stick with products from Assmann. You can order them at digikey).
I've found USB serial adaptors to be a bit hit & miss with embedded work. One thing to be aware of is that the buffering tends to work differently from "real" serial ports, and latency of characters through the system can be quite variable. Some embedded development systems (think bootloaders, cheap JTAG probes etc) can be quite sensitive to this and will give timeouts and so on.
Note this doesn't only apply to USB serial adaptors, I've had similar problems with high end multi-port serial cards, but usually with those you can tweak the FIFO / IRQ settings to get something working.
I have experienced that a USB to serial adapter with a FTDI chipset and drivers is more reliable and compatible with more devices than the Prolific chipset
Depends upon the VM software, but VMWare Fusion does support USB devices. The question becomes, does your IDE support talking to a USB device instead of an old-fashioned serial port? With Linux, probably yes.
I had no problems whit serial adapters from ATEN.
USB serial adapter is USB standard device (just like mass storage) that mean that any USB compliant adapter should work.
pl2303: I have found this device to be very reliable and are often in the generic and cheap USB to RS232 adapters. I've seen expensive adapters fail and my generic adapter from geeks.com work great.
I just picked up a USB 1.1 - RS232 adapter (Digitus DA-70119) from WeirdStuff for 10 bucks. I plugged it into my Mac mini and VMWare Fusion showed me this.
Once I clicked on the USB icon, my Ubuntu 9.10 VM had no trouble seeing it
$ lsusb
Bus 002 Device 004: ID 067b:2303 Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2303 Serial Port
$ dmesg
usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4
usb 2-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
pl2303 2-1:1.0: pl2303 converter detected
usb 2-1: pl2303 converter now attached to ttyUSB0
I can now use /dev/ttyUSB0 in my Linux VM to talk to my target system.