I have read the entire VSTO documentation to start with and skimmed over most of the Office Add-ins (office.js) documentation on MSDN but not found the answer to my question.
Could you please provide me with an answer and also, if possible, please point me to the page on MSDN that answers my question?
Question
In a scenario where the client computer does not have Microsoft Office installed, and is using a browser to access Office Online, and he loads an Office add-in written using Office.js, in such a scenario, where is the computer that hosts the COM objects and the Office process they reside in?
Here is my understanding of the elements involved in using Office.js add-ins:
There's the Open XML document that has the data. This is just dead-meat. It had to be loaded into a process.
Earlier, that process used to be the unmanaged WINWORD.EXE (or EXCEL.EXE or POWERPNT.EXE or another office application) process.
Now, with office.js, when using Office Online, i.e. the Web client, the unmanaged Office process still has to be allocated in memory in some computer? Basically, that's the core of my question.
My guess is
that it has to, and that the process may be run remotely on a
server. The document itself may be hosted remotely, which isn't a
big deal but the process, too, is required and in the case of Office
Online, the unmanaged office process is run on a remote computer. It
is this assumption I want to confirm or invalidate.
There's the client UI. This used to be a mesh of unmanaged C++ code within the office application and managed UI created by .NET using VSTO and Windows Forms or WPF. Now, with Office.js, this is done using HTML/CSS/JavaScript and can be loaded by any kind of a client (desktop/Web).
The process hosting the document and providing the underlying Document, Bookmark, Range et al objects. My question is -- for Office Online clients that do not have MS Office installed on the client computer, where is this process now if they use Office Add-ins written using office.js?
Am I wrong in assuming that the JavaScript API for Office Add-ins merely calls into the existing Office COM infrastructure we already know about? If I am right, then where is the machine that hosts the Winword.exe (or whichever Office application) process?
To answer the question of where the code is executed: There are no "COM" objects per se (the new wave of Office.js APIs is not based on the VBA COM objects, at least not directly). But there is indeed a backing server that has the document open and in-memory. In the case of Excel, the Excel Online front-end is a fairly "thin" layer, and almost all operations are executed by the supporting server. That server doesn't run EXCEL.exe directly, but it has a web service that is kinda-sorta-like Excel (and that shares a lot of the same underlying C++ code), which runs in a "headless" mode, one instance per document. In the case of Word, on the other hand, Word Online has a lot more business logic that it can execute locally, and so a lot of the operations are executed on the browser and sync back up to the server at idle time (much like end-user operations), but there is still a backing server that serves the appropriate data to the Word Online front-end, and that processes some operations (e.g., range.getOoxml(), or image.getImage()).
Hope this helps.
Office Web Add-ins (office-js) are web apps that leverage a specific library (office-js) to facilitate communication between the add-in and the host application.
As these add-ins are simply web apps, they work across the various Office platforms (Windows, Web, Mac, iOS). For browser based Office editions, add-ins are surfaced in an iframe. For native editions they are hosted in an embedded browser (IE11, Webkit, etc. depending on the platform).
Add-ins consist of two components, an XML manifest and the web app. The manifest can be loaded from a number of locations from directly side-loading, to a network share, to the Office Store. The web app is hosted wherever you would normally host your web apps (I recommend Azure but then I'm a bit biased). They are never hosted by Microsoft directly.
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In our organisation a problem occurs when saving Excel files.
Whenever we close a file there is a 50/50 chance that it saves in the location it was already in, but the other times it saves where another file was last saved.
We are all working on a Terminal Server (Windows 2019) using Office 2019.
Did anyone else stumble upon this as well? And perhaps found a solution?
The Considerations for server-side Automation of Office article states the following:
Microsoft does not currently recommend, and does not support, Automation of Microsoft Office applications from any unattended, non-interactive client application or component (including ASP, ASP.NET, DCOM, and NT Services), because Office may exhibit unstable behavior and/or deadlock when Office is run in this environment.
If you are building a solution that runs in a server-side context, you should try to use components that have been made safe for unattended execution. Or, you should try to find alternatives that allow at least part of the code to run client-side. If you use an Office application from a server-side solution, the application will lack many of the necessary capabilities to run successfully. Additionally, you will be taking risks with the stability of your overall solution.
I'd suggest using the Open XML SDK instead if you deal with open XML documents only, see Welcome to the Open XML SDK 2.5 for Office for more information.
Q1. Are there any method to distribute excel office add-in(w/ office.js) in privately?
(Will office.js add-in also be distributed like VSTO's .exe OR .xla/.xlam macro files with password?)
Q2. If I run office add-in server(node.js) on my on-premise server, What will have to be distributed to the end-users?
(I want to hide the core source logic unlike VBA macro.)
I am now developing an excel office add-in. But there seems to be some limitation to deploy to the end-users in my company.(We are now testing environment for pilot, and using office 365 but it is restricted by IT's policy)
When I refer to the official documentation below, the docs says that the way to deploy add-in in privately are Microsoft 365 admin center OR SharePoint catalog.(AppSource is publicly for everyone.)
refer. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/office/dev/add-ins/publish/publish
However, it seems that it have to use Microsoft's services or components like SharePoint or admin center. I don't want to use these items because I want to flexibly cope with various environments.
I have also read the article as below.
refer. How to distribute private office add-ins?
But the reply thread seems that the writer couldn't get the appropriate answer what I also want to know.
I want to know the other ways to distribute excel office add-in(w/ office.js) without unveiling my core source logic and what is the minimum materials I have to provide to the end-users(i.g. manifest or something).
Typically, as you have already know, you need to host the add-in's source code on the web server anywhere. The manifest file just refers to the place where the sources are stored. And the single file which should be provided to be able to side-load add-ins locally is the manifest file. Everything else is hosted under your control.
Due to the nature of the web technology you can't hide the source code from users. The add-in acts like a regular web page. The best what you could do is to obfuscate your code.
I have a Windows service filling cells in an Excel Workbook via OLE Automation.
The save process is not working, the file is never saved. But when done in a GUI app, the save process works.
The service user is an administrator account. I suspect the interaction with the Desktop.
Any idea?
Don't do this. Find another solution. Microsoft does not support or recommend OLE automation of Office software from anywhere but a workstation desktop session. I can't paraphrase any better than what they say directly, so here's the advice (link above goes into more detail) :
All current versions of Microsoft Office were designed, tested, and configured to run as end-user products on a client workstation. They assume an interactive desktop and user profile. They do not provide the level of reentrancy or security that is necessary to meet the needs of server-side components that are designed to run unattended.
Microsoft does not currently recommend, and does not support, Automation of Microsoft Office applications from any unattended, non-interactive client application or component (including ASP, ASP.NET, DCOM, and NT Services), because Office may exhibit unstable behavior and/or deadlock when Office is run in this environment.
If you are building a solution that runs in a server-side context, you should try to use components that have been made safe for unattended execution. Or, you should try to find alternatives that allow at least part of the code to run client-side. If you use an Office application from a server-side solution, the application will lack many of the necessary capabilities to run successfully. Additionally, you will be taking risks with the stability of your overall solution.
If you need your service to store data, a database is probably a good choice. Any users that require the data in an excel spreadsheet could populate their documents from the database. You could even set up template documents to do this automatically.
I had the same problem, run a Delphi software as service, with an administrator user and it gave to me a lot of errors in the read/write process like SaveAs method of Workbook class failed
The solution for read/save was create both folders below:
C:\Windows\System32\config\systemprofile
C:\Windows\SysWOW64\config\systemprofile\
There isn't much sense at all, but it worked.
Let's take Excel for example. In Excel 2016, when I select an add-in in the STORE, after clicking on Trust It, will the code (.html, .js files) of the add-in be downloaded or installed on my machine?
In other words, have the add-ins under MY ADD-INS been already installed on my machine, such that i could load and run them without Internet (if an add-in does not send or receive special data to or from Internet)?
I am asking this question, because i want to know if a basic add-in always requires Internet access to work.
As Eric mentions, Office add-ins are indeed web based. However, to add a bit to his answer:
While you definitely need a one-time access to fetch the manifest and the original HTML/JS/CSS files, if your add-in is not using license checking (it's free) and does not require web services, you should be able to make a website that uses standard offlining techniques to load with no internet connection after the first time.
I tried it out real quick with pointing a manifest at http://html5demos.com/offlineapp. After loading it once and then disconnecting my internet, I was still able to load that page.
Hope this helps,
~ Michael
Yes, the new Office add-ins are web-based. They are all defined - and installed - by a manifest file which specifies the URL location of the web source files. These are always hosted on the provider's web server and are not cached for offline use. The licensing system used by most add-ins (the ones that aren't free) requires a connection to the provider's web server which in turns needs to verify the user's license against the Office Verification Licensing Service. If offline use was enabled users could use a trial license in perpetuity without the provider being aware.
I've created a library to pass/get data to/from excel.
To execute in my machine i modified the access permisions in COM+ console.
The thing is that im interested in upload this component to my online server, but there i havent installed excel.
Are there any way to register excel in COM+ without install excel?
Thanks in advance.
Best Regards.
Jose
If your library uses Office Interops to manipulate Excel, then no you can't register Excel in COM+ without installing Excel, since there would be nothing to register against, or interop for that matter.
Even if you use late binding in your code, so that it compiles, you will experience runtime errors if the Excel components are not installed.
"All current versions of Microsoft Office were designed, tested, and configured to run as end-user products on a client workstation. They assume an interactive desktop and user profile. They do not provide the level of reentrancy or security that is necessary to meet the needs of server-side components that are designed to run unattended." - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/257757