Please guys, I have a situation in which I have to run multiple instances scheduled in different time, I need a good tool for scheduling all these instances in an advanced way, I need to check if logstash has completed its job to start another script...
I really can't use this kind of solutions discussed here like killing logstash instance because I'm not reading from file, it's much more complicated
So there are two main questions :
*) How to check if logstash has completed its job ?
*) what is the best tool to orchestrate these instances ?
I start using Job Scheduler but I really don't know if it's the good choice, any help ?
Thank you in advance :)
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I got a question for you guys and its not as specific as usual, which could make it a little annoying to answer.
The tool i'm working with is Camunda in combination with Groovy scripts and the goal is to reduce the maximum cpu load (or peak load). I'm doing this by "stretching" the work load over a certain time frame since the platform seems to be unhappy with huge work load inputs in a short amount of time. The resulting problem is that Camunda wont react smoothly when someone tries to operate it at the UI - Level.
So i wrote a small script which basically just lets each individual process determine his own "time to sleep" before running, if a certain threshold is exceeded. This is based on how many processes are trying to run at the same time as the individual process.
It looks like:
Process wants to start -> Process asks how many other processes are running ->
waitingTime = numberOfProcesses * timeToSleep * iterationOfMeasures
CPU-Usage Curve 1,3 without the Script. Curve 2,4 With the script
Testing it i saw that i could stretch the work load and smoothe out the UI - Levels. But now i need to describe why this is working exactly.
The Questions are:
What does a sleep method do exactly ?
What does the sleep method do on CPU - Level?
How does an OS-Scheduler react to a Sleep Method?
Namely: Does the scheduler reschedule or just simply "wait" for the time given?
How can i recreate and test the question given above?
The main goal is not for you to answer this, but could you give me a hint for finding the right Literature to answer these questions? Maybe you remember a book which helped you understand this kind of things or a Professor recommended something to you. (Mine wont answer, and i cant blame him)
I'm grateful for hints and or recommendations !
i'm sure you could use timer event
https://docs.camunda.org/manual/7.15/reference/bpmn20/events/timer-events/
it allows to postpone next task trigger for some time defined by expression.
about sleep in java/groovy: https://www.javamex.com/tutorials/threads/sleep.shtml
using sleep is blocking current thread in groovy/java/camunda.
so instead of doing something effective it's just blocked.
I am trying to implement a Django web application (on Python 3.8.5) which allows a user to create “activities” where they define an activity duration and then set the activity status to “In progress”.
The POST action to the View writes the new status, the duration and the start time (end time, based on start time and duration is also possible to add here of course).
The back-end should then keep track of the duration and automatically change the status to “Finished”.
User actions can also change the status to “Finished” before the calculated end time (i.e. the timer no longer needs to be tracked).
I am fairly new to Python so I need some advice on the smartest way to implement such a concept?
It needs to be efficient and scalable – I’m currently using a Heroku Free account so have limited system resources, but efficiency would also be important for future production implementations of course.
I have looked at the Python threading Timer, and this seems to work on a basic level, but I’ve not been able to determine what kind of constraints this places on the system – e.g. whether the spawned Timer thread might prevent the main thread from finishing and releasing resources (i.e. Heroku Dyno threads), etc.
I have read that persistence might be a problem (if the server goes down), and I haven’t found a way to cancel the timer from another process (the .cancel() method seems to rely on having the original object to cancel, and I’m not sure if this is achievable from another process).
I was also wondering about a more “background” approach, i.e. a single process which is constantly checking the database looking for activity records which have reached their end time and swapping the status.
But what would be the best way of implementing such a server?
Is it practical to read the database every second to find records with an end time of “now”? I need the status to change in real-time when the end time is reached.
Is something like Celery a good option, or is it overkill for a single process like this?
As I said I’m fairly new to these technologies, so I may be missing other obvious solutions – please feel free to enlighten me!
Thanks in advance.
To achieve this you need some kind of scheduling tasks functionality. For a fast simpler implementation is a good solution to use the Timer object from the
Threading module.
A more complete solution is tu use Celery. If you are new, deeping in it will give you a good value start using celery as a queue manager distributing your work easily across several threads or process.
You mentioned that you want it to be efficient and scalable, so I guess you will want to implement similar functionalities that will require multiprocessing and schedule so for that reason my recommendation is to use celery.
You can integrate it into your Django application easily following the documentation Integrate Django with Celery.
I need a suggestion - I'm writing an application that will work as kind of TaskScheduler and I want each task to be a separate Thread. I have a
System.Collections.Concurrent.ConcurrentBag<Thread>
with my threads/tasks but - I can only start a thread once from this "Bag", once it is finished - I can't restart it again (it's a scheduler application so one thread may be launched once per day/hour/minute... every few seconds...).
Should I create new Thread in my "Bag" each time a task is supposed to run?
Also - I can't really remove objects from ConcurrentBag (?)
It would be easier with:
List<Thread>
... but I read List is not a good approach to multithreading.
One more thing - it will be required to kill tasks that take too long to finish. So I will need to do Abort on a thread - a thing I see people don't reccomend as well.
Does anyone have some tips for managing a list of threads/tasks as I described? thanks in advance for suggestions.
nevermind - I gave up with "threads" and will use separate "processes" instead.
In k8s Cron Job Limitations mentioned that there is no guarantee that a job will executed exactly once:
A cron job creates a job object about once per execution time of its
schedule. We say “about” because there are certain circumstances where
two jobs might be created, or no job might be created. We attempt to
make these rare, but do not completely prevent them. Therefore, jobs
should be idempotent
Could anyone explain:
why this could happen?
what are the probabilities/statistic this could happen?
will it be fixed in some reasonable future in k8s?
are there any workarounds to prevent such a behavior (if the running job can't be implemented as idempotent)?
do other cron related services suffer with the same issue? Maybe it is a core cron problem?
The controller:
https://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes/blob/master/pkg/controller/cronjob/cronjob_controller.go
starts with a comment that lays the groundwork for an explanation:
I did not use watch or expectations. Those add a lot of corner cases, and we aren't expecting a large volume of jobs or scheduledJobs. (We are favoring correctness over scalability.)
If we find a single controller thread is too slow because there are a lot of Jobs or CronJobs, we we can parallelize by Namespace. If we find the load on the API server is too high, we can use a watch and UndeltaStore.)
Just periodically list jobs and SJs, and then reconcile them.
Periodically means every 10 seconds:
https://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes/blob/master/pkg/controller/cronjob/cronjob_controller.go#L105
The documentation following the quoted limitations also has some useful color on some of the circumstances under which 2 jobs or no jobs may be launched on a particular schedule:
If startingDeadlineSeconds is set to a large value or left unset (the default) and if concurrentPolicy is set to AllowConcurrent, the jobs will always run at least once.
Jobs may fail to run if the CronJob controller is not running or broken for a span of time from before the start time of the CronJob to start time plus startingDeadlineSeconds, or if the span covers multiple start times and concurrencyPolicy does not allow concurrency. For example, suppose a cron job is set to start at exactly 08:30:00 and its startingDeadlineSeconds is set to 10, if the CronJob controller happens to be down from 08:29:00 to 08:42:00, the job will not start. Set a longer startingDeadlineSeconds if starting later is better than not starting at all.
Higher level, solving for only-once in a distributed system is hard:
https://bravenewgeek.com/you-cannot-have-exactly-once-delivery/
Clocks and time synchronization in a distributed system is also hard:
https://8thlight.com/blog/rylan-dirksen/2013/10/04/synchronization-in-a-distributed-system.html
To the questions:
why this could happen?
For instance- the node hosting the CronJobController fails at the time a job is supposed to run.
what are the probabilities/statistic this could happen?
Very unlikely for any given run. For a large enough number of runs, very unlikely to escape having to face this issue.
will it be fixed in some reasonable future in k8s?
There are no idemopotency-related issues under the area/batch label in the k8s repo, so one would guess not.
https://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3Aarea%2Fbatch
are there any workarounds to prevent such a behavior (if the running job can't be implemented as idempotent)?
Think more about the specific definition of idempotent, and the particular points in the job where there are commits. For instance, jobs can be made to support more-than-once execution if they save state to staging areas, and then there is an election process to determine whose work wins.
do other cron related services suffer with the same issue? Maybe it is a core cron problem?
Yes, it's a core distributed systems problem.
For most users, the k8s documentation gives perhaps a more precise and nuanced answer than is necessary. If your scheduled job is controlling some critical medical procedure, it's really important to plan for failure cases. If it's just doing some system cleanup, missing a scheduled run doesn't much matter. By definition, nearly all users of k8s CronJobs fall into the latter category.
I am looking for your help , actually everyday i have to monitor my TWSZ/OPC jobs on system and its really boring to check ..
I would like to know if is there any way to get a notification once our OPC jobs whether are completed or no
Thank you
One very easy way to approach this is to get the freely available XMITIP package and add an end of job email step to let you know how it went.