When should one use ".Value" - excel

I'm a beginner with Visual Basic, and mainly use it to edit MS Excel files.
When copying/pasting (Cell) content or other values, in some cases .value is added.
When should this be added?
When not?
Is it necessary?
Could it harm my code if I use it in places where it isn't needed?

In Excel VBA a Range object is a fairly rich thing which corresponds to either a cell or a range of cells. As such it has all sorts of properties (it is in a given row, accessible via the .Row property, it has interior color, possible borderlines, formulas, etc. -- all accessible via the right properties after the dot.) Value is one of these properties. It refers to the value in the cell -- typically a number or a text. It wouldn't be used when using Copy and Paste since those methods are used on whole Range object -- as can been seen by the fact that they are able to copy formatting and not just raw values.
You can assign the value in one cell to another. Even though this looks like copy/pasting it really is quite different and is in some sense a low-tech solution when all you want to do is transfer the values. It can be done using either e.g. Range("A1").Value = Range("B1").Value or Range("A1") = Range("B1"). The reason the later works is that Value is the default property of a Range object -- hence .Value is implicit in any context in which you aren't treating the Range as an actual object.
Personally, I always explicitly use Value when I want to either read or set the value in a cell (or range of cells) even though I could rely on the fact that Value is the default property. Most Excel VBA code makes heavy use of both Range objects and the values in the Range objects. For reasons of readability it is a good idea for your code to be explicit about when it is using the range vs. when it is using the value. If you follow the excel-vba tag on SO you will see that it is relatively rare for programmers to rely on Range's default property.

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Get Current Region with Office-JS

How do I get the current region surrounding the ActiveCell using the Excel JS API?
In VBA this is
Set rng=ActiveCell.CurrentRegion
The current region property in the JavaScript API has now been implemented. The property is called getSurroundingRegion()
There is no direct equivalent, but we do have a range.getUsedRange() that will take an existing range and give you a smaller range that represents the non-empty portions. Note that this method will throw a not-found error if there is nothing in the entire range (since effectively it's an empty range, which Excel can't express).
If you really need the CurrentRegion scenario (and I'd be curious to learn more), you could first get the used range (to ensure you're not loading too much data), then load the values property, and then do range.getExpandedRange(indexOfLastRow, indexOfLastColumn).
BTW, unlike VBA's usedRange, the JS "getUsedRange()" always creates an accurate snapshot of the current used range (the VBA one could get stale), and we're exposing it not just on the worksheet but also on a given range.
Update
What I mean is that there are a couple of scenario, one simpler, the other harder.
The simpler one: you know roughly what range you need, but you just need to trim it. For example, you know you have a table-like entity in columns A:C, but you don't know the row count. That's where
worksheet.getRange("A:C").getUsedRange()
would get you what you need.
The harder one: you use getUsedRange() to trim down what you can, but you then load range.values and manually do a search for rows and columns where each cell is empty (""). Once you have that (suppose you found that the relative row index you care about is 5, and column index 2), you could do
originalRange.getCell(0, 0).getExpandedRange(rowIndex, columnIndex)
Concrete example for the above: You have data in A2:C7, though the getUsedRange() of the worksheet is much larger (and hence my suggestion could try to trim it down further by doing a range.getUsedRange()). But for this case, let's imagine that getUsedRange on a worksheet returned a range corresponding to A1:Z100. worksheet.getRange(0, 0) would get you the first cell, which you can then expand by 5 rows and 2 columns (which you find through simple albeit tedious array iteration) to get the range you care about. Makes sense?

Using Named Range as single cell references in formulas that accept arrays

So background first, question second.
I recently discovered an interesting property of named ranges that I'm experimenting with and not finding much help. The property is this: If I name a range (a column in this example), I can use the named range as a reference in formulas and it will usually resolve as though it were a reference to the same relative position as the current cell within the named range. So if I call A:A "Alphabet" and it contains letters a through z, each in their own row, I can simply type =Alphabet in cell b26 and it will evaluate to "z" (i.e. A26 instead of a:A). Seems simple, but it is shaping up to be quite powerful, because there is essentially an index function built-in. Very useful for making tidy formulas.
Onto the issue: when I use this same technique with a range that accepts an array argument (i.e. MAX, EOMONTH, etc.), the reference is resolving in the standard way (Max(A:A)). If I wrap the reference in VALUE(), then it resolves to just the single reference within the larger range (a26). The question is simply can anyone think of any way to avoid needing to do this, or at least to make the wrapper as unobstrusive as possible?
Real world example: I have a list of employees and I want to determine which date from three named ranges is larger. So I have something like
='DateSameRow1' > Max('DateSameRow2','DateSameRow3','DateSameColumn', and it is resolving as =a10 > Max(b:b,c:c,2:2). Note the issue: The named range outside of MAX resolved one way, and inside MAX resolved another. Sure, I could just write = a10 > Max(b10,c10,d2) or whatever, but this is so much more readable in what will end up being a huge formula. Right now I'm having to write MAX(VALUE('DateSameRow2')) or whatever to get the result I want and it is defeating the purpose.
Thanks
You can use --NAMED_RANGE in front of the "offending" named range and it will force a negative VALUE and then undo the negative.
Per my comment, I would recommend you not build a spreadsheet on this functionality. The -- is even further removed from VALUE in indicating that a named range is being used in this way.

How to use relative names in Excel VBA

Many "advanced" (aka: VBA) excel tutorials on the web or even excel's vba help encurage us to use the
Range("B2:B10")
method (to be precise: object) for selecting cells or getting values. In the same place they often add it's totally ok to use predefined names as well:
Range("valuesabove")
On the other hand I fell in love with the incredible power of relatively defined cell names. They make it so much easier to write and handle big composite formulas, and basically to refer to nearly anything.
However, relative names don't work in the Range("valuesabove") method the way we are used to it.
Usually (when used on the worksheet) relative names are relative to the currently selected cell or to the cell in which they are used.
In VBA's Range() object this is not true. Range is relative to a WorkSheet object, by default to the ActiveSheet. But ActiveSheet is represenetd by its leftupper cell, A1. And this is what Range turns out to be relative to. And this is why absolute names ($C$23) do work with it, and relative ones ("one column to the left, two rows up") don't.
So my question is:
How can I harness the power of relative names in VBA then?
EDIT:
Realising that my question was rather unclear (thx's go to you guys commenting tirelessly) let me try to put it in a specific form and clarify terms:
IMHO on an excel worksheet it is very comfortable to use names in order to refer to cells or define calculated values by functions based on cell values.
In excel a reference to a cell can be either relative, absolute, or mixed. This is true also when creating names. Thus we can speak about absolute, relative or mixed names (in terms of referring of course).
Here an absolute name is used a couple times (created using excel's Trace Dependents function):
Name "name" = $D$2
A relative name is used a couple times here:
Name "upright24" while, e.g. cell A7 is selected = C3 (without $ signs!). But this changes constantly according to the selected cell or region. You can check it in the name manager! (Ctrl+F3)
And this is what we can consider as a mixed name:
Name "rel_serialnumber" while, e.g. cell C6 is selected = $B6. The row of which (6) changes constantly according to the selected cell or region.
The creation of a relative or a mixed name is explicitly based on the active cell at the moment of creating the name. The creation of an absolute name naturally doesn't rely on the cursor position.
Note, that
absolute names mean a dinamic offset from the referenced cell, which is one and only
relative names mean a static offset from the referenced cell, which thus changes always corresponding to the place where the name is used
mixed names mean a mixed (or half-dynamic) offset from the referenced cell, the row or column of which thus changes always corresponding to the place where the name is used while the other remains always the same (the offset in one or the other direction remains zero).
Okay, now here is the thing. I have a database-like excel sheet where I handle the rows like records and the columns as fields for properties. The user uses this thing as follows: he "selects a record" by placing the cursor in any cell of the row of the desired record. Then he presses a big command button which starts my VBA macro. This intends to open a prepared skeleton file and fill some specific cells in it (which are btw defined by absolute names) with some values (which are defined by mixed names) from the selected record.
Since Range("name") is considered ok to use in VBA (see above) I thought Range("relativename") or Range("mixedname") will work just as fine while automatically relying on the active cell.
I couldn't be worse.
Only Range("absolutename") works in the way one would expect! Explanation see above.
So I'm after a function / method / object that is possibly as comfortable to use with a "relativename" or a "mixedname" as Range("absolutename") is.
It appears you are looking for Range.Offset() http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/office/ff840060%28v=office.15%29.aspx
However you could do it as:
'Your example Range(Col_B_in_current_row) as
Range("B" & ActiveCell.Row).Select
'Your example Range("B2:B10") -> Range("valuesabove") as
Range("B2:B10").Offset(-1, 0).Select
Just seems like a relatively simple syntax already exists for this.
I think I've found a proper and compact solution. It's
Names("mixedname").RefersToRange
Not as short as Range("mixedname") would be but it is really providing the expected values.
UPDATE:
This solution is mostly unuseful if you want to copy relative-named cell values in a source workbook to relative-named cells in a dest workbook with a single codeline. This is because Names() relies on the actual position of the cursor which is depending on which workbook is currently the active one and in most cases this won't be ok for the other.
In this case the non-fixed part of the name has to be stored:
sourcerow = ActiveCell.Row
[...]
'opening a wbk, this also makes it the active one
[...]
Names("dest").RefersToRange = mysheet.Cells(sourcerow, mybook.Names("src").RefersToRange.Column)
To reference a Range relative to another Range you can use this syntax:
myRange.Range("namedRange")
Note: This only works if both the Row offset AND the Column offsets are positive. For example if the "Refers to" formula for the named range is "=Offset(A1,r,c)", then the above syntax will throw an error if Either r Or c is negative. But, it will work if both are positive.
The asymmetry is unfortunate but business as usual for VBA...
To Reference the third column in the row of the current ActiveCell:
ActiveCell.EntireRow.Range("C1")
To reference a cell offset by (for example) 1 row and 3 columns relative to the ActiveCell:
ActiveCell.Range("C2")
Obviously, you can use the same syntax with the Selection Object or any other Range value in VBA.
Private Sub Worksheet_Change(ByVal Target as Range)
If Not Intersect(Target.Address,ThisWorkbook.Sheets('sheetname).Range('RangeName)) Is Nothing Then _
'Do whatever you want down here.
ThisWorbook.Sheets('sheetname).Range('RangeName).Offset(0,Target.Row)
End If
End Sub
This should send you on the right path to what you want (which is super unclear). Use the worksheet change event to bring in user worksheet selections and changes into VBA modules. Put it into the relevant sheet.
I had the same problem, but I did get it to work - sort of. I don't know what is different about the simple example below, but it works. At first I thought selection mattered, but no - it works without changing the active cell.
(I still can't get it to work in my main spreadsheet.)
Named range: "TestName" = Sheet1!$H1
Values in H1:H10 = 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10
Sub Test()
Dim x As Integer
For x = 0 To 10
Range("A1").Offset(x, 0).Value = Range("A1").Offset(x, 0).Range("Testname").Value
Next x
End Sub
Result: A1:A10 = 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10

Can I add a value to a Named Range?

I have a Named Range setup in an Excel worksheet which I'm using to supply values for a Data Validation drop-down. My source formula is, basically, this:
=INDIRECT( "OnePartOfTheRangeName" & "AnotherPart" )
The range changes based on another value in the row, so that's why I have to combine strings, etc.
I want to add an extra value to the Data Validation list but am not having any luck with that. I thought that if there was some sort of "Union" function I could combine the INDIRECT list with the single value, but I haven't been able to find such a function.
Does anyone know another way to solve my issue?
Excel is quite specific in its error message (indeed, rather a nice change!):
so I doubt worth too much effort in attempting a direct approach. And I am bearing in mind that over three years without a solution to a fully understandable question probably means "it is not possible".
However an indirect approach might serve, though for that some details may be missing - for example how your named range is being constructed at present. For the purposes of illustration, assume that is named Part1 and refers to R1:R12, with blanks at the end (to allow room for expansion) and blanks in the middle (to show versatility). Assume 'another part' is named Part2 and refers to S1:S10, also with blanks in the middle and at the end (and also at the start).
The Data Validation might then be a List whose Source: =whole is the range T1:T22 named whole.
T1 would then be populated with:
=IFERROR(INDEX(Part1,SMALL(IF(ISBLANK(Part1),"",ROW(Part1)-MIN(ROW(Part1))+1),ROW(A1))),IFERROR(INDEX(Part2,SMALL(IF(ISBLANK(Part2),"",ROW(Part2)-MIN(ROW(Part2))+1),ROW(A1)-SUMPRODUCT(--NOT((ISBLANK(Part1)))))),""))
(courtesy of Get Digital Help) entered with Ctrl+Shift+Enter and copied down to T22.
This is dynamic in that adding an entry in ColumnR for example adds that into ColumnT which in turn adds into the validation drop-down.
Disadvantages include that the dropdown is not sorted in order if S and T entries are not sorted and the 'room for expansion' remains evident in the drop-down.

Excel development: How to detect that a Range overlaps another Range?

I am working on a VSTO Excel project and I am having some troubles managing Range objects.
Actually I have case where I need to know if the current selected range overlaps another Range that I stored in list. So basically, I have 2 Range instance and I want to compare their position.
This seemed simple pretty simple to me but with all the Interop dynamic stuff I am bit confused concerning which data I should rely on.
Application.Intersect returns a range that is an intersection of the provided ranges, or null if they don't overlap.

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