As the title asks, I want to format today's date into mmddyy ina variable for a macro to make saving a file easier. So since today's date is August 14, 2015 I want the variable to read 081415.
VBA equivalent is format. See here.
=Format(Date,"mmddyy")
You should also consider being vary careful when handling dates depending on your location.
A constant problem I had in the UK was excel trying to as usual help and insisting on interpreting some dates as US.
For example
1st August 2015 you would expect 010815 in the UK.
However excel would regularly give 080115 formatting as though it was US.
To be completely sure of the correct date, you should be explicit with the date eg.
format(dateserial(year(now()),month(now()),day(now())),"mmddyy")
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I've been struggling with Excel (2016) date formats. I know how to change display formats for dates and cells but the problem I have is the input format for dates. If I input a date as "DD.MM" or "DD.MM.YYYY" it does recognize it as a date but if I input the date as "DD.MM." (with the second dot after the month), Excel does not recognize it as a date anymore. The column in question is formatted as short date.
Is there anything that can be done or is this by-design? If so, it seems really strange as at least in my country it's the official way to write the date containing that second dot after the month number when there is no year included in the date.
I've been searching and Googling for solution but couldn't find anything on this really. I appreciate all comments and help regarding this question!
SUMMARY/TL;DR:
Excel version is 2016, country is Finland and language is finnish
Excel accepts/recognizes these as dates: 12.5 or 30.8
Excel does NOT accept/recognize these as dates: 12.5. or 30.8.
The column in question is formatted as short date
The dot after the month seems to be screwing things up
Why is this happening? Can anything be done?
Kind regards,
Tenttu
Yes, it is/was by design. (Funny enough, my Excel won't allow dots, only dashes (-), so I couldn't even test if "15.8" works)
So, there's a slight chance that the language of Excel (the defaults of time (24 hours or AM/PM), dates (MM/DD or DD/MM), decimals (comma or dot) etc.) wouldn't allow the dot at after the month. Here's an example of a user that has that dot, and wants to get rid of it. So, your system language is a good candidate for why this wouldn't work for you.
However, I realize that the example linked above don't feature a date with a dot at the end. Which could suggest it is rather by design. For example, if I add a dot to a valid date or time, it will result in some #VALUE!-error. And that's because of how Excel is programmed to convert text to a date - and remember, dates are actually just really large numbers. So, adding a dot at the end makes that conversion "impossible". We might think it's as easy as to remove a dot, but in programming, we need to program that explicitly to do that, and I'm leaning towards there is no such operation done during text to date conversion (certainly not on my system, as I get #VALUE!).
One work-around is to strip the ending dot from the date to make it a valid date. So, you can import sheets with dates with dots at the end, then strip them away, and you'll be good to go!
I have a file with columns configured to format dates as yyyy/mm/dd. It's a shared file with a small team. Whenever I type "January 13" in a cell in the column, it returns a value of 2018/01/13, which is what the team wants. However, when my other colleagues enter the same "January 13" in that column, it returns a 2013/01/01 value. It's like Excel is interpreting the "13" as the year on his/her unit. We all use the same 2013 version and same computer model/type/brand.
What we tried so far:
-Comparing Excel applications to ensure the same configurations
-Saving the file as .xlsx instead of .xls
-Redoing the sheet into a new one
-Closing and opening the sheet
Yet none still worked. We hope to not go on the option of typing the whole date (January 13, 2018) as we somehow our fingers are dexterously trained to typing just January 13. Any insights on this please? Thanks! :)
The problem is in the Windows Regional Short Date settings.
If the short date settings are a variation of MDY, Excel will interpret your input(spelled out month and digits) as MD
If the short date settings are a variation of DMY; Excel will interpret your input as MY
In both cases, the Month is unambiguous. The short date format then interprets the digit based on the token following the Month token.
You will also see different results if you enter dates such as 1-12 vs 1-13 in the different environments.
If changing the short date settings is not an option (and the settings involved are MDY and DMY), one fix would be to always enter the dates as dd mmmm (13 January) as that would be interpreted as Jan 13, current year in either environment.
I would select all the cells/rows/columns that have dates and customize the format. Go to Home>Number and click on the dropdown (it might say "General" or "Short Date" or something). Click on "More Number Formats" and go to "Custom". In the cell under "Type:" put yyyy/mm/dd . Any way you type the date it should come out the same now. Either way, typing in number format should be easier than typing the month name.
I have a large spreadsheet that contains, among other things, date entries in the form of:
Fri, 03 May 2013 07:04:46 GMT
I haven't been able to find a way, within Excel proper, to manipulate this down to a date object it recognizes. The problem is, I don't extract the spreadsheet or have any control over how this data is provided, and there are a LOT of entries -- to many to manually change them. Further, while my first thought is to simply crank out a Perl script to roll through and do it for me, this won't do because I'm just prototyping a process that will be handed off to someone that wouldn't know Perl from Pearl. It needs to be something doable only in Excel, and other than sorting and basic equations and such, I'm pretty much an excel noob.
My require is simply that I need to be able to sort the column contain these values as a date.
Thanks!
If there are specifically three characters for the month, then you could use:
=DATEVALUE(MID(A1,6,11))+TIMEVALUE(MID(A1,18,8))
Format the Cell to a Date, using something like dd/mm/yyyy hh:mm:ss if you want to confirm that the time is correctly interpreted.
If you don't need the time then just omit the +TIMEVALUE().
You can use =LEFT, =MID and =RIGHT to extract the different parts of the string, and manipulate them further. The string format isn't unambiguous from your example, but I'm assuming that it's 3-char weekday, dd mmm yyyy date, and hh:mm:ss time.
If your data is in column A:
=LEFT(A1, 3)
returns Fri
=MID(A1, 6, 11)
returns 03 May 2013, and =VALUE() on that returns the date serial number for 3 May 2013.
I've got date strings formatted this way: "Tuesday, January 3, 2012"
How can I convert them in a date format in Excel 2010?
Thank you in advance!
What works can depend on regional settings. If you have US regional settings this formula will give a date based on your data in A1
=TRIM(REPLACE(A1,1,FIND(",",A1),""))+0
format in required date format
This version should work on a wider range.....
=TRIM(MID(A1,LEN(A1)-7,2)&REPLACE(REPLACE(A1,LEN(A1)-7,3,""),1,FIND(",",A1),""))+0
Try this version which should work for Italian settings - [I assume the data is in English as shown, e.g. months are January, February etc.]
=DATE(RIGHT(A1;4);SEARCH(MID(A1;FIND(",";A1)+2;3);"xxjanfebmaraprmayjunjulaugsepoctnovdec")/3;MID(A1;LEN(A1)-7;2))
There's the DATEVALUE worksheet function which converts text to dates, however it doesn't seem to accept "Tuesday, January 3, 2012". But it does accept e.g. "3 January 2012" so if you manipulate the string into that format you should be able to get it to work.
Just a thought, these data functions like DATEVALUE often depend on your display settings for date, so what works for me in London UK may be different if you're elsewhere in the world with different display settings.
It seems that every week or so someone posts a question about dates being converted (corrupted?) to American format. Like many others, I have attempted to help but the problem is elusive. I now wonder if I have discovered the cause.
I am working on an application in which I need to extract data from an Excel worksheet and output it as strings formatted to match the value the Excel user can see. So if the value is “1” formatted to display as “1.00” then I want the string to be “1.00”.
I achieve this effect by testing the cell value to be a number, date or time. If it is, I retrieve the number format and use it to format the cell value so:
With .Cells(Row, Column)
Output string = Format(.Value, .NumberFormat)
End With
In most cases this gives me exactly the output I require. However, sometimes I get American dates and times when the source is formatted as a UK date or time.
After much experimentation with Excel 2003 and Excel 2007, I have discovered the cause. (I do not have access to Excel 2010 but from questions I deduce it has the same problem.) This question is in part intended to reveal this problem to the world because I can discover nothing on the internet to indicate that anyone else has noticed it. (No doubt someone will reply that they googled “xyz” and got the answer immediately.) However, the main purpose of this question is to seek suggestions for obtaining the result I need in all situations.
Typically I enter dates as, for example, “23mar12”. Excel recognises this as a date and formats it as “23-Mar-12”. I can select Format Cells and enter or select a custom format or select one of the date formats so I can have any format I can imagine wanting including non-English names for days and months.
However, in one case the format I select is not the format that is recorded: Custom format “dd/mm/yyyy” is recorded as Date format “* 14/03/2001”. This is not obviously a problem until further down the line.
I created a column of dates and times and formatted each with a different custom or standard format. I wrote a macro to extract the NumberFormat for each of these dates and times and write it as a string to an adjacent column. I also formatted the value using the number format and wrote that string to a third column.
In a number of cases the format selected and recorded by Excel was not the format returned by NumberFormat:
Excel format NumberFormat
Date: * 14/03/2001 m/d/yyyy
Date: * 14 March 2001 [$-F800]dddd, mmmm dd, yyyy
Date: 14/03/2001 dd/mm/yyyy;#
Date: 14/03/01 dd/mm/yy;#
Date: 14/3/01 d/m/yy;#
Date: 14.3.01 d.m.yy;#
Date: 2001-03-14 yyyy-mm-dd;#
Date: 14 March 2001 (1) [$-809]dd mmmm yyyy;#
Date: 14 March 2001 (2) [$-809]d mmmm yyyy;#
Custom: hh:mm:ss h:mm:ss
Time: * 13:30:55 [$-F400]h:mm:ss AM/PM
Time: 13:30:55 (1) hh:mm:ss;#
Time: 13:30:55 (2) h:mm:ss;#
Time: 01:30:55 PM [$-409]hh:mm:ss AM/PM;#
Time: 1:30:55 PM [$-409]h:mm:ss AM/PM;#
The values (1) and (2) in the Excel format column were added by me to indicate that there are two apparently identical formats. As can be seen from the NumberFormat column, in each case the second version suppresses a leading zero.
Most changes have no important effect. “[$-F800]” and so on are apparently dummy values with no effect. Apparently you can replace “F800” with an Microsoft country code to have the names of days and months translated to the language of that country.
However, the three standard formats that Microsoft marks with an asterisk are changed unacceptably. The dates are changed from little endian to middle endian; the time is changed from 24 hour to 12 hour and the day of the week has been added to “* 14 March 2001”.
The asterisk against the dates, references the comment: “Except for items that have an asterisk () in the Type list (Number tab, Format Cells dialog box), date formats that you apply do not switch date orders with the operating system.” The asterisk against the time, references the comment: “Except for items that have an asterisk () in the Type list (Number tab, Format Cells dialog box), time formats that you apply do not switch time orders with the operating system.”
If I have to, I can warn my users that standard date and time formats may not give the result desired. However, if they want the popular format “dd/mm/yyyy”, they cannot have it. “dd-mm-yyyy”, for example, is OK but custom format “dd/mm/yyyy” becomes date format “* 14/03/2001” becomes “m/d/yyyy”.
Returning to my opening point: is this strange handling of one particular date format the reason so many people claim their dates are sometimes being converted to American format and is this why the problem is so elusive? I have come across this type of problem elsewhere of one group of Microsoft programmers not knowing what another group are doing. Is this why some functions always work and other sometimes don’t? Some Microsoft programmers know where to look for the correct format and others don’t?
More importantly, for me, can anyone suggest:
How I obtain the true date or time format?
Some other way of determining the user’s chosen display format for a date or time?
BTW 1: I recall that thirty or so years ago I was told that the American military do not use month/day/year format; only American civilians use this format. Can anyone tell me if this is true?
BTW 2: The similar problem is with Excel colours. Excel holds its colours as "ggbbrr" while everybody else holds them as "rrggbb". The programmers for the .Net Excel inter-op were not told and and did not reverse the Excel colour number before using it to control the screen.
I have mainly come up against formatting and date issues when opening text files which have been saved with different regional settings. Two useful cell properties for dealing with this are:
.Text returns the cell value as it is displayed
.Value2 returns the unformatted cell value or date serial number.
As you say, standard date and number formats depend on windows regional settings and this may not be desired behavior as the same workbook can display differently in different regions. MS introduced the regional code prefixes in number formats (circa Excel 2000?) which enforce consistent display if needed but they need to be explicitly selected.
If you really want to see a date or number as the user entered it, you could extract the contents of the .xlsx file looking at the worksheet cell format and the shared strings xml definitions which list the number formats in the saved workbook. I don't really see a need to do this though as the underlying value is stored internally as a serial number and this will not change.
BTW 1: It's been almost 30 years since I was in the military...
I worked on helicopters and I was taught to use a format such as this in the aircraft logbooks: 3 Apr 12. So, that's how I still write dates. This way, there's no wondering about 4/3/2012 - is it April 3 or March 4?
I hacked this: I rewrite the original data in a known format. it relies on DateSerial and TimeSerial:
'Google spreadsheet stores dates in USA format (MM/DD/YYYY). We're in Australia, using DD/MM/YYYY, so we need to swap them.
'
With dc 'the cell who contains a date in USA format.
d = .Value 'capture value in USA format
t = TimeValue(d)
.NumberFormat = "dd/mm/yyyy" 'set to OZ format, so Excel knows the values were swapped in its internal math.
.Value = DateSerial(Year(d), Month(d), Day(d)) 'DateSerial takes y,d,m. We swap Month and Day components, to get OZ format dates
.Value = .Value + TimeSerial(Hour(t), Minute(t), Second(t))
dc.Font.Bold = True ' We bold the cells that are swapped, for debugging
End With
End If