I want to send a message from chrome extension to a windows application. first i decided to use socket but i realized that we can use socket just in chrome app . is there any way to send this message to achieve my goal ?
The are 2 principal ways to do it.
You could expose a web server instead of raw sockets, something like a REST API. This is available to extensions.
Even better, you could use the WebSocket technology to approximate raw sockets - but you'll need to do all the handshaking first.
There's a specific API for what you're trying to do, called Native Messaging. It's somewhat rigid in what it can do (it cannot connect to an existing process, for instance), but it's worth a look.
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I'm new to working with sockets and have a small system design question:
I have 2 separate node processes for a web app, 1 is a simulator that is constantly running and the 2nd is an api server. Both share the same MongoDB database and we have a React app running for the client, served by the api server.
I'm looking to implement socket.io for real-time notifications and so I've set up a simple connection between the api and client.
My problem is that while the simulator runs, there are some events that I also want to trigger push notifications for so my question is how to hook that into everything?
The file hierarchy is like:
app/
simulator/
api/
client/
I saw this article for communication between node processes and I currently have 3 solutions in mind:
Leave hierarchy as it is and install socket.io package inside simulator as well. I'm not sure if sockets work this way but can both simulator and api connect to the same socket?
Move simulator file into api file to fork as a child process so that the 2 processes can communicate via child/parent messaging. simulator will message api which will then emit updates through the socket to client
Leave hierarchy as is and communicate via node-ipc. Same situation as above with simulator messaging api first before api emits that to client
If 1 is possible, that seems like the best solution in my impression. It seems like extra work to add an additional layer of messaging for 2 and 3.
Leave hierarchy as it is and install socket.io package inside simulator as well. I'm not sure if sockets work this way but can both simulator and api connect to the same socket?
The client would have to create a separate socket.io connection to the simulator process. Then, the client can receive data from the API server over one connection and from the simulator over another connection. You would need two separate, independent socket.io connections from the client, one to the API server and one to the simulator. Simulator and API server cannot share the same socket unless they are in the same process.
Move simulator file into api file to fork as a child process so that the 2 processes can communicate via child/parent messaging. simulator will message api which will then emit updates through the socket to client
This is really part of a broader option that the simulator communicates with the API server and sends it data that the API server can then send to the client over the single socket.io connection that the client made to the API server.
There are lots of different ways for the simulator process to communicate with the API server.
Since it's already an API server, you can just make an API for this (probably non-public). The simulator calls an API to send data to the client. The API server receives that data and sends it to the client.
As you suggest, if the simulator is run from the API server as a child process, then you can use parent/child communication messaging built into node.js. Note, you don't have to move the simulator files into the API file at all. You can just use child_process to launch the simulator as another nodejs app from another project. You just have to know the path to that other project.
You can use any another communication mechanism you want between the simulator process and the API server process. There could be a socket.io connection between them. You could use several forms of IPC, etc...
If 1 is possible, that seems like the best solution in my impression.
Your #1 option is not possible as separate processes can't use the same socket.io connection.
It seems like extra work to add an additional layer of messaging for 2 and 3.
My options #1 and #2 are not much code in each server. You're doing interprocess communication. You should expect to use some code to enable that. But, it's not hard at all.
If the lifetime of the simulator server and the API server are always together (they have no independent uses), then I'd probably do the child process thing where the API server launches the simulator and then use parent/child messaging to communicate between them. You do NOT have to combine sources to do this.
The child_process module can run the simulator process by just knowing what directory it is located in.
Otherwise, I'd probably make a small web server on a non-public port in the API server and have the simulator just send data to that other web server. I often refer to this as a control port. It's a way of "controlling or diagnosing" the API server internals and can only be accessed from within the private network and/or with credentials. The reason I'd use a separate web server (in the same nodejs app as the API server) is to make it easy to secure so it can't be accessed from the outside world like the regular public APIs can. You just put the internal web server on a port that is not exposed to the outside world.
You should check Socket.IO docs about adapters and Emitters. This allows to connect to sockets from different node processes and scalability.
I'm looking at Meteor to build a site that is comparable to a stripped-down Facebook. i.e.
It will have users that can connect to other users (either by 'friending' and / or 'following')
users can interact with content that either they or other users create/share
I would like to implement a 'wall' and 'news feed' like concept
The first thing you notice on the framework is how data syncs instantaneously across all clients. I'm assuming this is what the framework refers to as 'DDP'? (Please let me know if that is not correct).
Question:
Is this 'DDP'-like thing reliable enough to build an 'inbox' messaging functionality (i.e. Facebook messenger)?
DDP(roughly) is an efficient combination of some XHR techniques and web socket. And Meteor is a framework to build programs using DDP. You can check the specification.
DDP is a protocol between a client and a server that supports two operations:
Remote procedure calls by the client to the server.
The client subscribing to a set of documents, and the server keeping the client informed about the contents of those documents as they change over time.
If your application needs reactivity and you decides not to use Meteor, you are likely to invent a layer between client and server, which is very similar to DDP.
I am building an app in which I provide functionality X, Y and chat.
Lets say that X and Y are non-interactive eg. reading articles - which will work fine with REST (on a node.js server) while chat is obviously interactive so it will work best with socket.io!
Questions: 1. Is it possible for me to 'switch on' a socket between the server and the user when the user navigates to the chat part of the application? 2. Can I open up a socket inside a GET request for the url: example.com/chats/usr_id on the node.js server?
3. How can this be accomplished inside a Backbone routing framework?
Yes. Just initialize the connection when the view is rendered (via a controller or script). See socket.io client documentation. You can just connect when the view is rendered and disconnect when the view is terminated. http://socket.io/docs/client-api/
You cannot open sockets with a GET request. Socket.io has it's own build in mechanisms for connecting to a socket server. It will start with Web Socket protocol and fall back to Long Polling. You can however use custom url's for unique things. One again, consult the socket.io documentation: http://socket.io/docs/client-api/
http://www.sitepoint.com/chat-application-using-socket-io/
p.s. I'd suggest reading up on how Web Sockets work, as you don't seem to have a very strong understanding.
I am looking to build an web application using node.js and possibly socket.io but I am having a lots of confusion regarding whether to use socket.io or go with plain http. In the app the node.js server will be basically an api server which serves json to the javascript client or may be mobile clients too. The web app will also has chat messeneger for its users, this is where socket.io comes in.
I am not sure whether to use socket.io for the whole app or only for the chat part. Although my app itself could benefit from socket.io but its nothing that I think can't be done using plain http and client making more requests to the server.
I have read at several places that sometimes socket.io can be difficult to scale for more users.
Socket.io often crashes and specially creates probs when there are firewall in clients system.
More importantly.....I checked out socket.io user list and did not find many users, so was curious to know what kind of platform is more know chat network like facebook messenger, google talk etc are built upon, Are any built using http-ajax and continues querying to the server.
Please help me out in solving this question. Some might argue that this is a opinion based question. But what actually I am trying to figure out the implementation of socket.io and its limitation.
I would suggest serving your API over HTTP and leave the real-time business to Socket.io. If you are adverse to using Websockets, like #GeoPheonix stated, you can choose from a variety of transport methods using both socket.io and sockjs (https://github.com/sockjs/sockjs-node).
As far as scaling is concerned, I deployed a socket.io based real-time analytics/tracking service for a very large application with ana average of 400+ concurrent connections with no visible performance impact, but this may depend on the implementation and hardware.
Socket.io is faster than plain http. I recommend you to use it for all since you have to have a chat in first place.
In my case, real-time Texas Hold'em-like game can receive up to 2500 concurrent with one node process. However, if you change transport from websocket to xhr-polling, It can receive like more 10x than pure websocket. Your application is just chat so, I guess a little slow down wouldn't be a problem. If you sure you will exceed this number, yes, scale socket.io is a pain.
This problem will happen only if you open socket.io for port other than 80 and 443. If you have frontend web server with other language already, you can still use socket.io on another subdomain to be able to run on port 80 without conflict with your main frontend web server. Socket.io support cross-domain without a problem.
Have you used trello.com? If not, try it :). It's best for task management or even some Agile thing. They used socket.io. https://c9.io/ is another one. It's online IDE with google doc-like collaborative. One thing to note is xhr-polling trasport in socket.io is the same with http-ajax with long-polling (Better than general ajax). You can read more info at:
http://book.mixu.net/node/ch13.html
Is there anyway to send data though sockets from Node.JS to SignalR? I have a Node.JS app that sends realtime information as JSON format. The other app it's an MVC C# app that uses SignalR to send the data to the client via socket. I want tosen data from de nodejs to signalr and signal send that info to the client.
You might consider better solution for internal communication between processes. SignalR is meant to be used between .Net server and client using different authentication, handshake, protocol and network layer methods, which is inefficient for internal server communication.
Take a look on ZeroMQ, is well simple and very easy to use tool, meant especially for such cases. It has bindings for most languages including .Net and node.js.
There is js client for browser to communicate with Signal R server.
http://www.nuget.org/packages/SignalR.Js
You probably can extract js file from it and run from Node.js.
And probably standard Socket.IO will just work, you need to subscribe to proper events and go.
If you want a node.js client for signalR that doesn't require jQuery I started this one. It intentionally only supports websockets.
https://npmjs.org/package/signalr-client