I don't understand the concept of client-side rendering. I have always used server-side rendering with PHP/Ruby, I don't see how it is possible to have client side rendering.
Who does the work? The browser?
If someone could give explanations or links that explains that, I would be grateful.
Without sounding sarcastic, it is a distinction between client-side compilation/manipulation, server-side compilation/manipulation, or a combination of both. While the browser is the thing that actually does the rendering.
But compilation/manipulation of what?
In general we're talking about HTML, CSS, javascript assets and maybe some data returned from a db that upon request gets compiled/manipulated into something that can be rendered on the browser as our application.
You can do this on the client-side using plain-old-javascript, jquery, backbone, angular, ember, etc.. You can do this on the server-side using plain-old-node or one of the frameworks like Sails.js.
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What I would like to know is, how do you built your web application? I'm really confuse as which method should I use for my project.
Already decided which technologies to choose.
1) Node.js and express as its Framework
2) MongoDB
3) React + Flux
But the problem right now, should I use method (A) or method (B)
Method (A) - Serverside rendering for HTML
app.get('/users/', function(request, respond) {
var user = "Jack";
respond.render("user", { user: user });
});
Method (B) - Clientside rendering for HTML
app.get('/users/', function(request, respond){
var user = "Jack";
respond.json({ user: user });
});
Method A will render the HTML from the server and as well as the data.
Method B will just respond the data that is needed for the client which is React.js, so that it could manipulate the data.
My concern, is which method should I use? most startups use which method?
Thank you.
It's not an either/or proposition.
React is a client side framework. You have to render on the client side. The question is whether to render on the server side in addition to rendering on the client side.
The answer? If you can, YES!
You will get SEO benefits and an initial performance boost by rendering on the server side. But you will still have to do the same client side rendering.
I suggestion googling "isomorphic react" and doing some reading. Here is one article on the subject.
http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2015/04/react-to-the-future-with-isomorphic-apps/
Well, it really depends on which vision you have on the modern web, and what you are willing to do.
Will you prefer to let your users wait, displaying a loader while data are loaded asynchronously, or will you prefer to keep your users busy as long as you can ?
Here are different articles that will help you clear your mind and be aware of the different advantages that you can have by doing server-side rendering, client-side rendering having multiple issues.
You can see this post from Twitter blog saying they improve their initial page load by 1/5th to what they had before, by moving the rendering to the server:
https://blog.twitter.com/2012/improving-performance-on-twittercom
An other article, this time from airbnb, describing the issues you can have with client-side rendering itself:
http://nerds.airbnb.com/isomorphic-javascript-future-web-apps/
There is also an other interesting article talking about client-side/server-side rendering, bringing a debate on when should we use / not use server-side or client-side rendering and why:
https://ponyfoo.com/articles/stop-breaking-the-web
And to finish, I can give you two more link more focused on react, and describing in which way server-side rendering should be helpful for your case:
https://www.terlici.com/2015/03/18/fast-react-loading-server-rendering.html
http://reactjsnews.com/isomorphic-javascript-with-react-node/
Now, about what you SHOULD do, it's a matter of what you exactly need to do, to my opinion, but basically, you can do both at the same time (client-side AND server-side), to have the best user experience.
This concept is called "isomorphic javascript" and it is getting more and more popular these days.
The simplest architecture is to just do dynamic html rendering on the server, with no Ajax, and with a new HTML page requested for pretty much any client click. This is the 'traditional' approach, and has pros and cons.
The next simplest is to serve completely static html+js+css (your React app) to the client, and make XMLHttpRequest calls to webservices to fetch the required data (i.e. your method B).
The most complex but ideal approach (from a performance and SEO perspective) is to build an 'isomorphic' app that supports both approaches. The idea is that the server makes all the necessary WS calls that the client would make and renders the initial page that the user has visited (which could be a deep-linked part of the application), a bit like option A but using React to do the rendering, and then passes control to the client for future DOM updates. This then allows fast incremental updates to the page via web-service calls as the user interacts (e.g. just like B). Navigation between different 'pages' at this point involves using the History API to make it look like you're changing page, when actually you are just manipulating the current page using web-services. But you you then did a browser refresh, your server would send back the full HTML of the current page, before passing control to client-side React again. There are lots of React+Flux+Node examples of this approach available online, using the different flavours of Flux that support server-side rendering.
Whether that approach is worthwhile depends on your situation. It probably makes sense to start using approach B (you can share the your HTTP API between mobile apps and websites), but use a Flux architecture that supports server-side rendering and keep it in mind. That way, if you need to improve the performance of initial page loads, you have the means to do it.
I've recently dived into React+Flux on the front-end, and I love it! But I want to also be able to use React on the back-end to avoid having to duplicate views and rendering logic.
I've seen that React supports server-side rendering if you use Node, but I do not use Node for my back-end logic.
So I'm wondering, can I set up a daemon written in Node that just renders HTML based on the data it receives and the root React component?
What I have in mind is to have my back-end application call this daemon with data already prepared (so that domain logic can live on my main back-end application), get HTML, and return that to the front-end.
Is this approach feasible? Has this been done before? I'd love some feedback!
I see that it's been a month and there are still no comments, I will share some of my understandings.
We can use this setup:
An API written in PHP or something similar that serves data.
Isomorphic React components - render on the server, attach event listeners on the client.
Server-side (Node) - the React component uses AJAX calls to get its props from the API and embeds them into a <script id="props" /> tag in the HTML as a JSON string.
Client-side - the component checks the script tag for props. If there is data, then it uses that to skip the re-rendering; if not (due to a server error or something), it can still use AJAX to get its props.
The main idea is that the website is isomorphic (server and client share the same code), so your existing front-end can be easily adapted to this setup.
A good place to start is a simple example about isomorphic React components. This tutorial can also provide an overview to this subject.
I'm building a web application using node.js, this is my first time working with node. I'm using express framework and I have a question about client side rendering.
All the tutorials that I have found online talk about express and server side rendering. They talk about how you can use jade the express templating engine, to serve rendered templates as reponse to your web application.
My application is going to be client heavy and most of the rendering will be done client side. I want to call server to just get plain JSON response and then render it client side, so server side rendering is not of much use.
In this case, is express a right choice? I really like the way I can write APIS in express but I'm concerned about how to serve my application. If I don't want to use the server side rendering it would mean that I would have to serve static HTML at the first call which seems weird to me.
You might want to try Emberjs if you want most of the work done on the client side. But still, you need to send the data to the client so one way is to build your app totally on the client side just by sending a plain html and working your way up there. You can also precompile jade
What you are describing sounds like you are searching for an javascript MVC(or other) solution.
There are a lot of possibilities. Take the right tools for the right job.
Try the following link to get an nice overview of what is possible.
Helping you select an MV* framework
I'm developing a very dynamic web application via ember.js. The client-side communicates with a server-side JSON API. A user can make various choices and see diced & filtered data from all kinds of perspectives, where all of this data is brought from said API.
Thing is, I also need to generate static pages (that Google can understand) from the same data. These static pages represent pre-defined views and don't allow much interaction; they are meant to serve as landing pages for users arriving from search engines.
Naturally, I'd like to reuse as much as I can from my dynamic web application to generate these static pages, so the natural direction I thought of going for is implementing a server-side module to render these pages which would reuse as much as possible of my Ember.js views & code.
However - I can't find any material on that. Ember's docs say "Although it is possible to use Ember.js on the server side, that is beyond the scope of this guide."
Can anyone point out what would be possible to reuse on the server-end, and best practices for designing the app in a way to enable maximal such reuse?
Of course, if you think my thinking here doesn't make sense, I'd be glad to hear this (and why) too :-)
Thanks!
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Handlebars - Ember's templating engine - does run on the server (at least under Node.js). I've used it in my own projects.
When serving an HTTP request for a page, you could quite possibly use your existing templates: pull the relevant data from the DB, massage it into a JSON object, feed it to handlebars along with the right template, then send the result to the client.
Have a look at http://phantomjs.org/
You could use it to render the pages on the server and return a plain html version.
You have to make it follow googles ajax crawling guides: https://developers.google.com/webmasters/ajax-crawling/docs/getting-started
Several UI libraries/frameworks are being ported to node.js, for example YUI (http://yuilibrary.com/projects/nodejs-yui3/).
What is the use case for this? What are the pros and cons of manipulating the DOM server side rather than in browser?
It's not a matter of using the DOM on the server instead of the client. It's a matter of using the DOM on the server instead of writing HTML or rendering views. You will still manipulate the DOM on the client aswell.
The main pro of using the DOM instead of other methods is doing the manipulation for browsers with javascript disabled.
The second pro is using the exact same code for your client side mvc on the server. This means rather then using views and templating engines you can just manipulate the html response through the DOM.
The main disadvantages are using code tailored for the browser. So this code is not optimised nor is it the best solution for the server.
Manipulation your html output through jsdom rather then views / templates is a valid thing to do and it's just an alternative way of generating the HTML your sending to the client.
The alternatives to jsdom are preprocessors like jspp which render like PHP or ASP or Templating engines like Jade that are generally used with express
YUI has more functions than just DOM manipulation. YUI3 architecture allows for you to use the non DOM functions like Y.io on the server side. So if you want to get data from another server, you can use Y.io on the server side.