Many packages that should be available in Debian are not - linux

There are many packages that are listed on the Debian site as being included in the repositories and fully supported by Debian, but when I try 'apt-get install' I am told: E: Unable to locate package. They also do not exist in synaptic.
Specifically, I am trying to install remmina (which should be simple), but has consumed several hours from my day. There seems to be no info on this. As I installed Debian with only DVD 1, I am assuming I need to download the references to most of the packages somewhere, but cannot find where or how to go.
I wanted to post a view of my sources list, but there are all kinds of formatting rules that I must follow, and then I am told I need x reputation points to post links (many addresses in sources.list). Basically I have main, contirb, and non-free enabled.
Thanks

If a package is available on repository, then it should be available to you too.
Check name of the package with apt-cache search <packagename> or aptitude search <packagename> ( I do prefer aptitude to search packages ).
Double check if the desired component is enabled at your sources.list file and under sources.list.d/. Many people forget to enable the famous contrib and non-free components. Check which component is related to your package and update your sources.list.
I found these .deb files:
http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/r/remmina/remmina_1.0.0-4+deb7u1_amd64.deb
http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/r/remmina/remmina-common_1.0.0-4+deb7u1_all.deb
As you can see, according to sources.list documentation these files are under the main component.

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RPM Vs Tar based Installation

My knowledge on Linux administration is limited and hence wanted to check here about the pros and cons of installing any RHEL/CentOS Linux software using rpm packages over installing through tar/zip files.
Thanks
a non-exhaustive list of pros and contras:
rpm
intelligent dependency managment
conflict checking
allow easy and clean uninstall
allow for upgrades / downgrades
list all files owned by a package
a central database with all packages installed, which files they own, their interdependencies
from source
you choose yourself all compiler flags
you can choose a custom installation path
I have tried to explain the diff, pros and cons,
Tar
Basically tar is old way of dealing with in Linux. We can say its existence when the Linux was created.
Usually the tar consists of Source Code and needs to be compiled in binary format for us to use.
Pros:
Using tar packages you gain more control over the programs that you install.
If you want certain portions that avoided, you could do that on the go. Which give you the upper hand.
Cons:
The main issue comes in the maintainability of the packages installed.
They are hard to manage. Once you install, there was no way to manage the software unless and until its well documented. It also hard to version them and you are left blank on the software version you have. The possible reason for this because of the non-indexing nature of files. The files could be spread across your file system, which makes it difficult to remove or upgrade it.
Hard to automate.
It is also hard to automate because of the complexities in maintaining the packages.
Below I tried explaining how tar file are compiled to get better understanding,
Prepare(setup) environment for building
./configure
This script has lots of options that you should change. Like --prefix or --with-dir=/foo. That means every system has a different configuration. Also ./configure checks for missing libraries that should be installed. Anything wrong here causes not to build your application. That's why distros have packages that are installed on different places, because every distro thinks it's better to install certain libraries and files to certain directories. It is said to run ./configure, but in fact you should change it always.
Building the system
make
This is actually make all by default. And every make has different actions to do. Some do building, some do tests after building, some do checkout from external SCM repositories. Usually you don't have to give any parameters, but again some packages execute them differently.
Install to the system
make install
This installs the package in the place specified with configure. If you want you can specify ./configure to point to your home directory. However, lots of configure options are pointing to /usr or /usr/local. That means then you have to use actually sudo make install because only root can copy files to /usr and /usr/local.
Please go through the below link for more information on the above commands
Why always ./configure; make; make install; as 3 separate steps?
RPM
The RPM Package Manager (RPM) is an open packaging system,
RPM packages pre-compiled binary packages (as well as source packages) for an easy one-click installation experience. RPM by itself does not manage dependency and resolve conflicts. When combined with Yum or PackageKit it will resolve all the dependency for the package.
RPM makes system updates easy. Installing, uninstalling and upgrading RPM packages can be accomplished with short commands. RPM maintains a database of installed packages and their files, so you can invoke powerful queries and verification on your system. During upgrades, RPM handles configuration files carefully, so that you never lose your customisation, that you cannot accomplish with regular .tar files.
RPM feature has the ability to verify packages. If you deleted an important file for some package, you can verify the package. You will notified of changes, if any—at which point you can reinstall the package, if necessary. Any configuration files that you modified are preserved during re installation.
Pros:
Install, reinstall, remove, upgrade and verify packages
Use a database of installed packages to query and verify packages
Use metadata to describe packages, their installation instructions, and so on
Package pristine software sources into source and binary packages
Add packages to Yum repositories
Digitally sign your packages
Querying a package (if the package is on your local file system or after the package is installed)
Validating a package (checking a package has not been tampered with, before or after installation).
Cons
Not as customisable as tar.
eg on usability: We will see how to install package using Tar or rpm:
in Tar:
$ tar xvf package.tar
$ cd package
$ ./configure --prefix=PREFIX
$ make
$ make install
in RPM:
rpm -U package-2.4.x-1.i686.rpm
That simple!!.
It basically depends on the usability and the purpose of your use.
Each of them has its on pros and cons depends on how and for what we use it.
I know it a long explanation,how this will give you clear picture. I know there are more untouched such as architecture and execution. I am not pretty confident to explain those here.
In simple words you can say that rpm are prepackaged binaries. They're just ready to go, it does everything for you. But to install rpm and deb you need to be root to have some write permissions. That leaves some serious security hole in the system. You may be unknowingly installing a Torjan horse. Also if the packages are screwed up they may cause the installation to fail altogether.
I personally recommend using tar as you are in more control. It is old school, I know, that's why a bit difficult but, in my opinion best way to go.
You can further refer to the link:
https://tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-Building-HOWTO-4.html

Rpm-spec file. running yum groupinstall

Good afternoon,
I am currently building an RPM that has some requirements I have not found answers to on the web. I have narrowed this down to a single question.
Normally when I run an install from command line, one of the steps has me run the following command yum groupinstall "Compatibility libraries" which installs 32-bit compatibility libraries on my 64-bit desktop. I am wondering if there is a way to accomplish this in the Requires: field of my RPM-spec file, as I have only found a way to require very specific RPM's for dependencies?
I could always add in the 10-15 individual packages that get installed with yum groupinstall "Compatibility Libraries", but I was hoping there was a better option.
Description of RPM:
My RPM is very basic in nature. It will untar multiple tar files into various locations, overwrite files throughout the main install directory, install compatibility libraries, and then proceed to startup a service.
If anyone needs more information to what I am trying to accomplish please let me know. Thank you.
You can only require specific packages, not groups, in your Requires: lines. You should absolutely not run yum in your %post script, because then (a) you are then hiding your dependencies, and nobody likes to see things get installed that they didn't expect, and (b) you will probably end up getting stuck because yum in %post would need to wait for the existing yum process to exit.
For library Requires:, the rpm build process will generally figure things out for you. You still need to manually specify the appropriate BuildRequires: dependencies, which are things that are required to build the package.
If you want to update your question with more details (e.g., a link to the spec file and a description of what you're trying to do, if it's not obvious from the spec), maybe we can come up with better solutions.

cannot find -lGL on Ubuntu 13.10

Did somebody succseed to compile a qtcreator qt project on Ubuntu 13.10? I did see answers on other environment up until 13.04, but it seams the packages have changed and I can install any of the mentioned packages. I need to know what dev package needs to be installed to satisfy the missing link library.
I can install any of the mentioned packages
Do you mean you can't install any of the mentioned packages? Why not?
Anyhow. You need two things here:
figuring out what's the file name you're looking for
figuring out how to locate the package containing that file name
Given that you're looking for a shared library, and you're passing -lGL to the linker, then the file name you're looking for is libGL.so.
Now, there are two strategies for figuring out which Ubuntu package contains what:
Using apt-file:
install it: apt-get install apt-file
search for the file apt-file search libGL.so
Using the online package search:
point your browser to http://packages.ubuntu.com/
scroll to the "Search the contents of packages" section
put libGL.so in the search field, and select your version (saucy) and architecture
Both of these ways will return three families of packages:
mesa-related packages
nvidia-related packages
flgrx-related packages
The last two are there because NVidia and AMD provide vendor-specific libGL.so overrides. But the one you're looking for is actually the first. So just install it.
Check /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGL.so and /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libGL.so, they should point to existing files.

Best way to Manage Packages Compiled from Source

I'm looking into trying to find an easy way to manage packages compiled from source so that when it comes time to upgrade, I'm not in a huge mess trying to uninstall/install the new package.
I found a utility called CheckInstall, but it seems to be quite old, and I was wondering if this a reliable solution before I begin using it?
http://www.asic-linux.com.mx/~izto/checkinstall/
Also would simply likely to know any other methods/utilities that you use to handle these installations from source?
Whatever you do, make sure that you eventually go through your distribution's package management system (e.g. rpm for Fedora/Mandriva/RH/SuSE, dpkg for Debian/Ubuntu etc). Otherwise your package manager will not know anything about the packages you installed by hand and you will have unsatisfied dependencies at best, or the mother of all messes at worst.
If you don't have a package manager, then get one and stick with it!
I would suggest that you learn to make your own packages. You can start by having a look at the source packages of your distribution. In fact, if all you want to do is upgrade to version 1.2.3 of MyPackage, your distribution's source package for 1.2.2 can usually be adapted with a simple version change (unless there are patches, but that's another story...).
Unless you want distribution-quality packages (e.g. split library/application/debugging packages, multiple-architecture support etc) it is usually easy to convert your typical configure & make & make install scenario into a proper source package. If you can convince your package to install into a directory rather than /, you are usually done.
As for checkinstall, I have used it in the past, and it worked for a couple of simple packages, but I did not like the fact that it actually let the package install itself onto my system before creating the rpm/deb package. It just tracked which files got installed so that it would package them, which did not protect against unwelcome changes. Oh, and it needed root prilileges to work, which is another main sticking point for me. And lets not go into what happens with statically linked core utilities...
Most tools of the kind seem to work that way, so I simply learnt to build my own packages The Right Way (TM) and let checkinstall and friends mess around elsewhere. If you are still interested, however, there is a list of similar programs here:
http://www.dwheeler.com/essays/automating-destdir.html
PS: BTW checkinstall was updated at the end of 2009, which probably means that it's still adequately current.
EDIT:
In my opinion, the easiest way to perform an upgrade to the latest version of a package if it is not readily available in a repository is to alter the source package of the latest version in your distribution. E.g. for Centos the source packages for the latest version are here:
http://mirror.centos.org/centos/5.5/os/SRPMS/
http://mirror.centos.org/centos/5.5/updates/SRPMS/
...
If you want to upgrade e.g. php, you get the latest SRPM for your distrbution e.g. php-5.1.6-27.el5.src.rpm. Then you do:
rpm -hiv php-5.1.6-27.el5.src.rpm
which installs the source package (just the sources - it does not compile anything). Then you go to the rpm build directory (on my mandriva system its /usr/src/rpm), you copy the latest php source tarball to the SOURCES subdirectory and you make sure it's compressed in the same way as the tarball that just got installed there. Afterwards you edit the php.spec file in the SPECS directory to change the package version and build the binary package with something like:
rpmbuild -ba php.spec
In many cases that's all it will take for a new package. In others things might get a bit more complicated - if there are patches or if there are some major changes in the package you might have to do more.
I suggest you read up on the rpm and rpmbuild commands (their manpages are quite good, in a bit extensive) and check up the documentation on writing spec files. Even if you decide to rely on official backport repositories, it is useful to know how to build your own packages. See also:
http://www.rpm.org/wiki/Docs
EDIT 2:
If you are already installing packages from source, using rpm will actually simplify the building process in the long term, apart from maintaining the integrity of your system. The reason for this is that you won't have to remember the quirks of each package on your own ("oooh, right, now I remember, foo needs me to add -lbar to its CFLAGS"), as the build process will be in the .spec file, which you could imagine as a somewhat structured build script.
As far as upgrading goes, if you already have a .spec file for a previous version of the package, there are two main issues that you may encounter, but both exist whether you use rpm to build your package or not:
A patch that was applied to the previous version by the distribution does not apply any more. In many cases the patch has already been applied to the upstream package, so you can simply drop it. In others you may have to edit it - or I suppose if you deem it unimportant you can drop it too.
The package changed in some major way which affected e.g. the layout of the files it installs. You do read the release notes notes for each new version, don't you?
Other than these two issues, upgrading often boils down to just changing a version number in the spec file and running rpmbuild - even easier than installing from a tarball.
I would suggest that you have a look at the tutorials or at the source package for some simple piece of software such as:
http://mirror.centos.org/centos/5.5/os/SRPMS/ipv6calc-0.61-1.src.rpm
http://mirror.centos.org/centos/5.5/os/SRPMS/libevent-1.4.13-1.src.rpm
If you have experience in buildling packages from a tarball, using rpm to build software is not much of a leap really. It will never be as simple as installing a premade binary package, however.
I use checkinstall on Debian. It should not be so different on CentOS. I use it like that:
./configure
make
sudo checkinstall make install # fakeroot in place of sudo works usally for more security
# install the package generated

Packaging multiple rpms in one file

Is it possible to paqckage multiple rpms into one file. I have got two bundles one of which requires that the other be installed. I would like to create a single installable out of them in such a way that this installer will first invoke pkg 1 and then install pkg 2. Is this possible? What about deb packages? Sorry if it a basic question. I have not worked with installers on Linux before. I have created Windows installers. There you can create two merge modules (.msm) and package them into a standalone installer (.msi) and specify the order of execution. I am looking for similar functionality on Linux.
EDIT: I think the question was not clear enough. Let me try to rephrase it. I have a bunch of runtime libraries which is currently shipped as a standalone installer. Another team develops products which use these libraries at runtime. I now want to provide the libraries to the product team in some form (sub-package) which they can include with their installer and configure their installer to install my sub-package first. Both packages should be available locally to the end user. They are not available on any repository and cannot be pulled down from the net at install time.
Try packaging them into a self extraction bash script. You won't have to modify or aggregate the libraries and rpms together. This should yield an executable file that can be included in another installation process. The last step of the extraction should be to call "rpm -i" with the rpm files as arguments.
Reference on building a self extracting bash script:
http://www.linuxjournal.com/node/1005818
First : you don't have to repackage anything, especially not if your application uses some external libraries. You just have to mention in your recipe that your RPM (or DEB) depends on the other one. Both apt-get (for deb) and yum (for rpm) will check these dependencies and install them if needed.
See :
http://rpm5.org/docs/api/dependencies.html (rpm) and http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/Linux-For-Devices-Articles/How-to-make-deb-packages/ (deb)
(These were just the first ones I found, you can find better resources out there :p).

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