I know I can cross compile from 64bit to 32bit in Lazarus:
http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Cross_compiling#From_Linux_x64_to_Linux_i386
But I need to compile 64bit from a 32bit OS install. My CPU is 64bit but I never installed 64bit Ubuntu when I did my OS install.
I want to try to keep away from installing a virtualbox with 64bit Ubuntu as it's a lot of time required and my Lazarus is very customized. So I'm looking for some way to compile into 64bit from my 32bit Linux OS.
According to http://wiki.freepascal.org/Cross_compiling#Host_and_target_on_different_CPUs it should be no problem!
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Up through Ubuntu 11 I have been able to successfully execute 32bit files on 64bit os with the 32bit libraries in place. With Ubuntu 14.04 however I get seg fault errors. Originally I thought it could be vm.mmap_min_addr which for the newer kernels defaults to 4096. But resetting it had no effect.
All the files execute properly as root.
What am I missing?
I am using Ubuntu 14.04 (64-bit). I want to build QT 4.8.7 Source code for 32-bit. How to configure the build?
Well if all solutions in the comments fail. Do it as me in VirtualBox. Install 32b operating system there and build what you want.
I'm looking for a way to builn a native 32bit exe on my 64bit developing machine.
Usually I would run: jx compile .\PhotoFly.jxp
But that produces a 64bit version.
Any ideas how to get the 32bit version?
To build a native 32bit app on 64bit platform, you should use jx compiled for ia32 processor.
If this is on Windows, you can either use the Windows Setup (x32/x64/SM/V8) (on x64 Windows you will have an option to install x32 JXcore binaries as well) or download the exact binary e.g. Windows 32 (V8) - all available on JXcore download page.
Then you can pack the app on 64bit Windows as usual:
> c:\path_to_jx_32\jx compile .\PhotoFly.jxp
When compiling code with VC++, MSDN gives you the option between using the x86_amd64 toolset or the amd64 toolset (when calling vcvarsall.bat).
How do I choose between those two when compile x64 code? Will the amd64 option churn out more efficient x64 machine code than the cross compiler?
It has nothing to do with efficiency. The native and cross-compiler will both generate the same machine code. You will however gain some benefits by running a native 64-bit compiler process on a 64-bit workstation (larger registers, larger memory space, etc...).
The native compiler will only run on an 64-bit copy of Windows, so if your workstation is 32-bit this compiler won't even run.
The cross-compiler is meant to run on x86 machines even though it will run on a 64-bit copy of Windows via WoW; however, there is no reason to do this.
The page you link says it quite well:
x64 on x86 (x64 cross-compiler)
Allows
you to create output files for x64.
This version of cl.exe runs as a
32-bit process, native on an x86
machine and under WOW64 on a 64-bit
Widows operating system.
x64 on x64
Allows you to create output
files for x64. This version of cl.exe
runs as a native process on an x64
machine.
Thanks to Brian R. Bondy for the quote formatting
From what you linked:
x64 on x86 (x64 cross-compiler)
Allows
you to create output files for x64.
This version of cl.exe runs as a
32-bit process, native on an x86
machine and under WOW64 on a 64-bit
Widows operating system.
x64 on x64
Allows you to create output
files for x64. This version of cl.exe
runs as a native process on an x64
machine.
Paraphrased:
If you use x86_amd64, then you are typically developing on an x86 machine and you want to create x64 files that run natively on x64. You could also use this option on an x64 machine but your compiler will be running under WOW64 emulation.
If you use AMD64, then you are developing on an x64 machine and you want to create x64 files that run natively on x64. The compiler is running natively in x64. This option is more efficient to build x64 programs.
You may wonder why you would ever develop an x64 program on an x86 computer, since you can't run it you can't debug it. Well it's still useful for example if you have a build server which is x86 and that build server needs to generate both x86 and x64 outputs.
How is it possible for a compiler to run under x64 if it is an x86 based program (x86_amd64)? That is the same reason you can run any x86 program on your x64 machine... Thanks to WOW64 emulation.
What is WOW64 emulation:
WOW64 emulation happens when you run an x86 program on an x64 computer (or IA64). WOW64 stands for Windows 32 on Windows 64. It is an emulation layer on top of x64 machines which allow you to execute x86 programs.
Your file system operations will be redirected to WOW64 folders and your registry will be redirected to a subnode as well. For example when you try to obtain the folder for program files it will return c:\program files (x86)\ if you are using WOW64 but it will return c:\program files\ if you are using x64.
Another example, for the registry if you try to write to HKLM\Software\Something it will really redirect you to HKLM\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Something without your x86 program's knowledge.
Running a native x64 build will be more efficient than running through WOW64 emulation Why? Because you don't have that extra emulation layer of transforming your 32bit calls into 64bit ones.
By the way if you are running the x64 version of Windows you can see which processes are running through WOW64 because they will have a *32 appended to the process name in the process list.
How is Linux simultaneously 32bit and 64bit? Or is that something handled in glibc?
I run CentOS 5.3 and it is a "64 bit" version; although I build things for 64 bit and 32 bit. From what I think I know, Windows supposedly has a 32bit emulator. Does Linux do the same thing? Is it in userspace or kernel space?
If libc handles it, is it kind of like a emulator that says, I'll link with 32 bit apps, but speak 64 bit to the kernel?
The cpu can execute both 64 and 32bit instructions and the kernel can switch between modes. The only limitation is that you cannot link 32bit programs against 64bit libraries so you must have both 32 and 64bit versions of libc, etc. installed.
Nothing is stopping the cpu from switching from 64bit to 32bit. It just switches.
You can have a 64 bit kernel, and run 32bit apps. You can even have a 32bit kernel and run 64bit apps(Mac os x).
However you need the libaries they use to also be 32bit or or 64bit, which is why you might see files called lib64 or lib32 on linux for the 64bit or 32bit libaries.
Because x86_64 processors are designed over x86 technology, they are still able to support 32-bit programs without any hardware emulation, like what you would need to run x86 programs in a PowerPC or Sparc environment. In Linux, all you need to do is install the necessary software libraries to run the 32-bit software.