Using azure table storage I read about Entity Group Transactions within the same partition. Now what happens if I use the Azure Queue together with table storage. Is it possible to get handle a message from the queue, insert into table storage. If something breaks, rollback and put the message on the queue again?
Or how should I handle such a scenario with Azure
Tables and queues don't have any associated transactions.
Here's some general queue usage guidance:
Make sure queue actions are idempotent - that is, you'd have the same results executing a queue message more than once, with repeatable side-effects
Set a reasonalbe queue message visibility timeout. If your task looks like it will take longer, you can extend a message's invisibility timeout. This prevents other threads / role instances from grabbing the same queue item while you're still working on it.
For long-running tasks (or those where you want to avoid consuming a resource multiple times if possible), modify your queue message along the way, giving yourself status hints. For example: you have a render-video queue message: 'RENDER|Source-URL'. you're rendering video, and it needs two passes. You've done pass 1 with results stored in a temporary blob. You could modify the message with something like 'RENDER|Source-URL|Pass1-URL'. Now, assume something goes wrong and your rendering task fails for some reason. Later, when you pick up this message again, you can start from pass 2, instead of from the very beginning.
You don't need to worry about putting messages back on the queue. Messages aren't actually removed from the queue until you explicitly delete them. They simply become invisible during the invisibility timeout period you choose. If you don't delete by the end of that period (or extend the period), the message becomes visible again for someone else to read. Note: At this point, once someone else reads the queue message, the original message-holder will no longer be able to delete the message.
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I've got a scheduler and some workers in Azure. The scheduler puts messages into a queue and the workers pull those messages and work on them. I've now just come into a scenario where I will need to move some data from table storage to our database once a certain threshold has been reached. These items need to be processed in order, oldest first. Once that threshold is met all the other items are processed in order. The current message that triggered the transfer needs to be stuffed at the end of the line and be reprocessed.
So, to the meat of my question...
Is it fine to simply resend the message to the queue as is or is there a potential for that to cause problems?
queueProvider.SendMessage(message);
A co-worker mentioned that he "though he might have read something about needing to do something special." I haven't seen anything to confirm his suspicions yet however so I thought I would pose the question here just to be safe.
The short answer is that it is fine. If you have a CloudQueueMessage, you can just send it to any queue (it is just a REST request at the end of the day). Every time you AddMessage(), it creates a new ID (might be same pop receipt but that doesn't matter). That being said, there are some things you might want to take care of and or investigate:
If you push a message onto one queue, pop it, and push to another queue or same queue, you should probably delete the first message off the queue. Merely popping it means that you have set the invisibility time out, but that it will reappear soon (and you now have identical message content on each queue). So, if I pop a message and immediately push it again, I now have 2 messages in the queue with identical content.
You can now update messages. This might be appropriate for you if you need ordering. You can indicate on the message itself in metadata or content what stage of processing it is in and you get some ordering here with a thoughtful implementation.
It is recommended that all logic inside the consumer of the queue be idempotent since a message can actually be picked up more than once. We have to keep in mind that the queue service guarantees that a message will be delivered, AT LEAST ONCE - so you could end up duplicating messages with this approach.
We had a terrible problem/experience yesterday when trying to swap our staging <--> production role.
Here is our setup:
We have a workerrole picking up messages from the queue. These messages are processed on the role. (Table Storage inserts, db selects etc ). This can take maybe 1-3 seconds per queue message depending on how many table storage posts he needs to make. He will delete the message when everything is finished.
Problem when swapping:
When our staging project went online our production workerrole started erroring.
When the role wanted to process queue messsage it gave a constant stream of 'EntityAlreadyExists' errors. Because of these errors queue messages weren't getting deleted. This caused the queue messages to be put back in the queue and back to processing and so on....
When looking inside these queue messages and analysing what would happend with them we saw they were actually processed but not deleted.
The problem wasn't over when deleting these faulty messages. Newly queue messages weren't processed as well while these weren't processed yet and no table storage records were added, which sounds very strange.
When deleting both staging and producting and publishing to production again everything started to work just fine.
Possible problem(s)?
We have litle 2 no idea what happened actually.
Maybe both the roles picked up the same messages and one did the post and one errored?
...???
Possible solution(s)?
We have some idea's on how to solve this 'problem'.
Make a poison message fail over system? When the dequeue count gets over X we should just delete that queue message or place it into a separate 'poisonqueue'.
Catch the EntityAlreadyExists error and just delete that queue message or put it in a separate queue.
...????
Multiple roles
I suppose we will have the same problem when putting up multiple roles?
Many thanks.
EDIT 24/02/2012 - Extra information
We actually use the GetMessage()
Every item in the queue is unique and will generate unique messages in table Storage. Little more information about the process: A user posts something and will have to be distributed to certain other users. The message generate from that user will have a unique Id (guid). This message will be posted into the queue and picked up by the worker role. The message is distributed over several other tables (partitionkey -> UserId, rowkey -> Some timestamp in ticks & the unique message id. So there is almost no chance the same messages will be posted in a normal situation.
The invisibility time out COULD be a logical explanation because some messages could be distributed to like 10-20 tables. This means 10-20 insert without the batch option. Can you set or expand this invisibility time out?
Not deleting the queue message because of an exception COULD be a explanation as well because we didn't implement any poison message fail over YET ;).
Regardless of the Staging vs. Production issue, having a mechanism that handles poison messages is critical. We've implemented an abstraction layer over Azure queues that automatically moves messages over to a poison queue once they've been attempted to be processed some configurable amount of times.
You clearly have a fault on handling double messages. The fact that your ID is unique doesn't mean that the message will not be processed twice in some occasions like:
The role dying and with partially finished work, so the message will re-appear for processing in the queue
The role crashing unexpected, so the message ends up back in the queue
The FC migrating moving your role and you don't have code to handle this situation, so the message ends up back in the queue
In all cases, you need code that handles the fact that the message will re-appear. One way is to use the DequeueCount property and check how many times the message was removed from a Queue and received for processing. Make sure you have code that handles partial processing of a message.
Now what probably happened during swapping was, when the production environment became the staging and staging became production, both of them were trying to receive the same messages so they were basically competing each other fro those messages, which is probably not bad because this is a known pattern to work anyway but when you killed your old production (staging) every message that was received for processing and wasn't finished, ended up back in the Queue and your new production environment picked the message for processing again. Having no code logic to handle this scenario and a message was that partially processed, some records in the tables existed and it started causing the behavior you noticed.
There are a few possible causes:
How are you reading the queue messages? If you are doing a Peek Message then the message will still be visible to be picked up by another role instance (or your staging environment) before the message is deleted. You want to make sure you are using Get Message so the message is invisible until it can be deleted.
Is it possible that your first role crashed after doing the work for the message but prior to deleting the message? This would cause the message to become visible again and get picked up by another role instance. At that point the message will be a poison message which will cause your instances to constantly crash.
This problem almost certainly has nothing to do with Staging vs Production, but is most likely caused by having multiple instances reading from the same queue. You can probably reproduce the same problem by specifying 2 instances, or by deploying the same code to 2 different production services, or by running the code locally on your dev machine (still pointing to Azure storage) using 2 instances.
In general you do need to handle poison messages so you need to implement that logic anyways, but I would suggest getting to the root cause of this problem first, otherwise you are just going to run into a lot more problems later on.
With queues you need to code with idempotency in mind and expect and handle the ‘EntityAlreadyExists’ as a viable response.
As others have suggested, causes could be
Multiple message in the queue with the same identifier.
Are peeking for the message and not reading it form the queue and so not making them invisible.
Not deleting the message because an exception was thrown before you can delete them.
Taking too long to process the message so it cannot be deleted (because invisibility was timed out) and appears again
Without looking at the code I am guessing that it is either the 3 or 4 option that is occurring.
If you cannot detect the issue with a code review, you may consider adding time based logging and try/catch wrappers to get a better understanding.
Using queues effectively, in a multi-role environment, requires a slightly different mindset and running into such issues early is actually a blessing in disguise.
Appended 2/24
Just to clarify, modifying the invisibility time out is not a generic solution to this type of problem. Also, note that this feature although available on the REST API, may not be available on the queue client.
Other options involve writing to table storage in an asynchronous manner to speed up your processing time, but again this is a stop gap measures which does not really address the underlying paradigm of working with queues.
So, the bottom line is to be idempotent. You can try using the table storage upsert (update or insert) feature to avoid getting the ‘EntitiyAlreadyExists’ error, if that works for your code. If all you are doing is inserting new entities to azure table storage then the upsert should solve your problem with minimal code change.
If you are doing updates then it is a different ball game all together. One pattern is to pair updates with dummy inserts in the same table with the same partition key so as to error out if the update occurred previously and so skip the update. Later after the message is deleted, you can delete the dummy inserts. However, all this adds to the complexity, so it is much better to revisit the architecture of the product; for example, do you really need to insert/update into so many tables?
Without knowing what your worker role is actually doing I'm taking a guess here, but it sounds like when you have two instances of your worker role running you are getting conflicts while trying to write to an Azure table. It is likely to be because you have code that looks something like this:
var queueMessage = GetNextMessageFromQueue();
Foo myFoo = GetFooFromTableStorage(queueMessage.FooId);
if (myFoo == null)
{
myFoo = new Foo {
PartitionKey = queueMessage.FooId
};
AddFooToTableStorage(myFoo);
}
DeleteMessageFromQueue(queueMessage);
If you have two adjacent messages in the queue with the same FooId it is quite likely that you'll end up with both of the instances checking to see if the Foo exists, not finding it then trying to create it. Whichever instance is the last to try and save the item will get the "Entity already exists" error. Because it errored it never gets to the delete message part of the code and therefore it becomes visible back on the queue after a period of time.
As others have said, dealing with poison messages is a really good idea.
Update 27/02
If it's not subsequent messages (which based on your partition/row key scheme I would say it's unlikely), then my next bet would be it's the same message appearing back in the queue after the visibility timeout. By default if you're using .GetMessage() the timeout is 30 seconds. It has an overload which allows you to specify how long that time frame is. There is also the .UpdateMessage() function that allows you to update that timeout as you're processing the message. For example you could set the initial visibility to 1 minute, then if you're still processing the message 50 seconds later, extent it for another minute.
I've just begun tinkering with Windows Azure and would appreciate help with a question.
How does one determine if a Windows Azure Queue is empty and that all work-items in it have been processed? If I have multiple worker processes querying a work-item queue, GetMessage(s) returns no messages if the queue is empty. But there is no guarantee that a currently invisible message will not be pushed back into the queue.
I need this functionality since follow-up behavior of my workflow depends on completion of all work-items in that particular queue. A possible way of tackling this problem would be to count the number of puts and deletes. But this will again require synchronization at a shared storage level and I would like to avoid it if possible.
Any ideas?
Take a look at the ApproximateMessageCount method. This should return the number of messages on the queue, including invisible messages (e.g. the ones being processed).
Mike Wood blogged about this subtlety, along with a tidbit about the queue's Clear method, here.
That said: you might want to choose a different mechanism for workflow management. Maybe a table row, where you have your rowkey equal to some multi-queue-item transation id, and individual properties being status flags. This allows you to track failed parts of the transaction (say, 9 out of 10 queue items process ok, the 10th fails; you can still delete the 10th queue item, but set its status flag to failed, then letting you deal with this scenario accordingly). Also: let's say you use the same queue to process another 'transaction' (meaning the queue is again non-zero in length). By using a separate object like a Table Row, you can still determine that your 'transaction' is complete even though there are additional queue messages.
The best way is to have another queue, call it termination indicator queue, and put a message in that queue for every message your process from your main queue. That is how it is done in research projects too. Check this out http://www.cs.gsu.edu/dimos/content/gis-vector-data-overlay-processing-azure-platform.html
anybody know patterns to design idempotent operations to azure manipulation, specially the table storage? The more common approach is generate a id operation and cache it to verify new executions, but, if I have dozen of workers processing operations this approach will be more complicated. :-))
Thank's
Ok, so you haven't provided an example, as requested by knightpfhor and codingoutloud. That said, here's one very common way to deal with idempotent operations: Push your needed actions to a Windows Azure queue. Then, regardless of the number of worker role instances you have, only one instance may work on a specific queue item at a time. When a queue message is read from the queue, it becomes invisible for the amount of time you specify.
Now: a few things can happen during processing of that message:
You complete processing after your timeout period. When you go to delete the message, you get an exception.
You realize you're running out of time, so you increase the queue message timeout (today, you must call the REST API to do this; one day it'll be included in the SDK).
Something goes wrong, causing an exception in your code before you ever get to delete the message. Eventually, the message becomes visible in the queue again (after specified invisibility timeout period).
You complete processing before the timeout and successfully delete the message.
That deals with concurrency. For idempotency, that's up to you to ensure you can repeat an operation without side-effects. For example, you calculate someone's weekly pay, queue up a print job, and store the weekly pay in a Table row. For some reason, a failure occurs and you either don't ever delete the message or your code aborts before getting an opportunity to delete the message.
Fast-forward in time, and another worker instance (or maybe even the same one) re-reads this message. At this point, you should theoretically be able to simply re-perform the needed actions. If this isn't really possible in your case, you don't have an idempotent operation. However, there are a few mechanisms at your disposal to help you work around this:
Each queue message has a DequeueCount. You can use this to determine if the queue message has been processed before and, if so, take appropriate action (maybe examine the Table row for that employee, for example).
Maybe there are stages of your processing pipeline that can't be repeated. In that case: you now have the ability to modify the queue message contents while the queue message is still invisible to others and being processed by you. So, imagine appending something like |SalaryServiceCalled . Then a bit later, appending |PrintJobQueued and so on. Now, if you have a failure in your pipeline, you can figure out where you left off, the next time you read your message.
Hope that helps. Kinda shooting in the dark here, not knowing more about what you're trying to achieve.
EDIT: I guess I should mention that I don't see the connection between idempotency and Table Storage. I think that's more of a concurrency issue, as idempotency would need to be dealt with whether using Table Storage, SQL Azure, or any other storage container.
I believe you can use Reply log storage way to solve this problem
I would like to make sure that I don't insert a message to the queue multiple times. Is there any ID/Name I can use to enforce uniqueness?
vtortola pretty much covered it, but I wanted to add a bit more detail into why it's at least once delivery.
When you read a queue item, it's not removed from the queue; instead, it becomes invisible but stays in the queue. That invisibility period defaults to 30 seconds (max: 2 hours). During that time, the code that got the item off the queue has that much time to process whatever command was in the queue message and delete the queue item.
Assuming the queue item is deleted before the timeout period is reached, all is well. However: Once the timeout period is reached, the queue item becomes visible again, and the code holding the queue item may no longer delete it. In this case, someone else can read the same queue message and re-process that message.
Because of the fact a queue message can timeout, and can re-appear:
Your queue processing must be idempotent - operations on a queue message must result in the same outcome (such as rendering a thumbnail for a photo).
You need to think about timeout adjustments. You might find that commands are valid but processing is taking too long (maybe your 45-second thumbnail rendering code worked just fine until someone uploaded a 25MP image)
You need to think about poison messages - those that will never process correctly. Maybe they cause an exception to be thrown or have some invalid condition that causes the message processor to abort processing, which leads to the message eventually re-appearing in the queue. There's a property callded DequeueCount - consider viewing that property upon reading a queue item and, if equal to, say, 3, push the message into a table or blob and send yourself a notification to spend some time debugging that message offline.
More details on the get-queue low-level REST API is here. This will give you more insight into Windows Azure queue message handling.
Azure queues doesn't ensure message order and either message uniqueness. Messages will be processed "at least once", but nothing ensures it won't be processed twice, so it doesn't ensure "at most once".
You should get ready to receive the same message twice. You can put an ID in the body of the message as part of your data.