I have Ubuntu 11.04 and am looking to start developing Linux modules. I use Visual Studio for C development in Windows, but I guess that's not an option for Linux. What would be a good IDE to work Linux modules ?
Depending on what you want to do there are number to choose from. However I think the closest one to visual studio equivalent will be eclipse.
From the FAQ:
Eclipse is an open source community whose projects are focused on
building an extensible development platform, runtimes and application
frameworks for building, deploying and managing software across the
entire software lifecycle. Many people know us, and hopefully love us,
as a Java IDE but Eclipse is much more than a Java IDE.
The Eclipse open source community has over 200 open source projects.
These projects can be conceptually organized into seven different
"pillars" or categories:
Enterprise Development
Embedded and Device Development
Rich Client Platform
Rich Internet Applications
Application Frameworks
Application Lifecycle Management (ALM)
Service Oriented Architecture (SOA)
The Eclipse community is also supported by a large and vibrant ecosystem of major IT > > > solution providers, innovative start-ups, universities and research institutions and > individuals that extend, support and complement the Eclipse Platform.
One very exciting thing about Eclipse is that many people are using
Eclipse in ways that we have never imagined. The common thread is that
they are building innovative, industrial-strength software and want to
use great tools, frameworks and runtimes to make their job easier.
It is all just a matter of personal preference.
Apart from what was mentioned in a similar question, I would like to name two more.
In our kernel-related projects, my colleagues and I currently use Geany lightweight IDE which is more than enough for us.
I also use Code::Blocks that resembles Visual Studio 2003 very much, it also does its job well. It has more advanced code completion features than Geany, I suppose.
Eclispe is always a popular choice and a very nice IDE
Eclipse (http://eclipse.org/) is a pretty good IDE. I have tried a few other ones such as KDevelop etc, but I have always found Eclipse to be the best and most stable.
Eclipse + CDT + at least a dual core processor and some Go of RAM and it will be a great adventure to navigate into the kernel sources.
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I am starting a project that is heavily graphics related (think, paint app with layers).
Anyway, I have a long history in C#, Java, JavaScript and Ruby. This application will be open source.
But what I'm looking for is a "build once, use everywhere" framework. Most of the platforms I've looked into either seem to be far too outdated, too complicated, or just not a right fit.
I've looked into Swing, WindowBuilder, wxRuby, etc. So many choices and none seem modern enough, have good documentation, etc.
I was a C# desktop developer for years so if I were targeting Windows only, I would go that route easily. But I want my app to run on Macs too. But, I would like the Mac version to look like it was designed for a Mac and the Windows version designed for Windows, etc. I'm looking at the Mono Project currently. But the idea of my Mac users installing Mono doesn't appeal to me.
Anything Ruby based would be cool but not required.
Anyway, what are some recommendations? I use NetBeans, Eclipse and Visual Studio. So I'm not concerned with learning new IDE's if I had to. I even thought about doing it all in JavaScript and using the canvas but since I need to work with large, local binary files, I didn't know if that would be a good option.
Thanks for any suggestions.
Real Studio can create cross-platform desktop apps for OS X, Windows and Linux. It can also create Cocoa apps and you can use it to interface with Cocoa directly when needed.
However, Real Studio creates Win32 apps, not .NET apps so you cannot directly interface with .NET libraries.
I like the Linux operating system and vim editor, but there are many companies that develop under Windows environment in Visual studio etc. There is a possibility that I will have to work for such a company in about a month.
I'd like to do my work on my Linux system and copy the files to them. I have experience with both developments and I found out that I don't want to work with MS products but I like programming and writing MS code is not such a pain.
Are you a similar developer? Could you give me some advice about your methodology to be most of the time on Linux platform, to create code and debug everything in vim on Linux and only when neccessary open Visual Studio with Windows forms and similar things and test the things that weren't possible to test in Linux environment?
I would see the work in creating small peaces of code on Linux, testing them and then move it to MS platform and integrate to the whole system. How do you debug and test your code? The development will be probably in C# or C++. I can't imagine Visual Basic.
Please write here your experience, style of work, if this has sence or there are too many troubles and I should rather give up.
So the question is: How to develop applications that run on Windows with Linux tools, without touching Visual Studio and browsing with Windows file manager etc.
thank you
Not sure, if this will help you or not but there is a Vim Emulation layer for Visual Studio 2010 called VsVim.
Check out : http://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/59ca71b3-a4a3-46ca-8fe1-0e90e3f79329
If I were you I'd install MinGW or Cygwin on your windows machine and just use gvim/vim anyway (or maybe just use the Win32 vim).
VS is just a big editor. You'll be building with the microsoft compilers ( perhaps using msbuild or nmake ) but probably are going to have to accept that you can only debug windows things with VS ( unless you build for MinGW or Cygwin and use gcc and gdb)
You can use vim as a code editor, you can even stick on Linux when developing software for the .NET platform. The people behind the Mono make this happen. Mono is a software platform designed to allow developers to easily create cross platform applications. It is an open source implementation of Microsoft's .Net Framework based on the ECMA standards for C# and the Common Language Runtime.
You can stick to the editor of your liking and use the tools that come with Mono to compile your stuff. There is a IDE called Mono Develop, but compared to Visual Studio it is pretty basic... and compared to VIM it lacks simplicity.
C# projects are plain text files so it's easy enough to edit them over an SMB share in whatever editor you wish from anywhere the sysadmins let you.
Testing however will be difficult without going back to the windows machine, and while Mono implements the framework, it's still a different environment if you're targeting Windows.
Are there any good OOP languages that you can use on Linux? Obviously Java comes to mind, even running C# under mono.
Looking for a language that can be used for all round development, web dev, desktop, services etc.
Besides Mono C# and Java anything else come to mind?
Python seems to be the obvious choice. There a lot of great web frameworks for it, strong support for development of GTK desktop apps and many others. Ruby should also be mentioned, although it's not usually used for desktop apps.
Don't forget other languages running on top of the JVM either - most notably Scala, Clojure and Groovy.
Vala and D are new and interesting languages with some quality tools available. Vala was primarily designed to work smoothly in GNOME environment.
All of them. Whatever you want to use on Linux, you can.
Linux developent is a lot of things. For GUI application programming, you're most likely to want to program for one of the two big desktop environments, GNOME and KDE, or directly to the widget libraries that they are built on, GTK+ and Qt.
GTK+ is at its root a C library with object orientation being implemented as a set of conventions, very simply explained. However, many now program GTK+ and GNOME using true OOP languages like C++, C# using Mono (some very popular and default GNOME applications are built on Mono).
Another very interesting language for GTK+/GNOME is Vala, which is made to look and behave like C#, but which compiles to idiomatic GTK-using C, so all the GTK+ OOP conventions are lifted up to be part of the Vala language.
KDE and Qt are basically C++ libraries, but these also have bindings to other languages.
Both environments have good Python bindings.
You can still use C# with the Mono project.
Python and Ruby are probably the most logical choice for all-round development. PHP is also great for web development.
Interesting how as soon as Java gets ruled out as an answer that we go straight for dynamic languages.
I'd still suggest using Java as a lot of your C# knowledge will apply with subtle differences in convention.
For the compiled type of app how about Freepascal.
Multi-platform and pretty easy to get the hang of for a C#/Java developer I would have thought. Can do web, desktop, client-server etc etc. And free (as the name implies!). Plus, it's based on Pascal (obviously) so it's well tried and tested and not one of the 'languages du jour' :-)
Give a try to the Free Pascal and Lazarus IDE.
You are getting support for multiple platforms, not only Linux. You write code once and compile it everywhere and you have a quite nice IDE which will speed up your development process.
Take a look at screenshots
TIP: When using Lazarus try the last daily snapshot instead of stable release. Snapshots are much more up to date with bugfixes \ features.
Consider C++ with Boost.org. Boost is always coming out with new releases and it's all open source. Linux and C++ have a very long history and there are plenty of stable tools. Once you know C++, many new worlds seem to open up. There are several good IDE's as well. I like code::blocks.
I started using Linux for PHP web development. What is a helpful toolset to use for web development (mostly PHP) available for the Linux platform. My Current IDE is netbeans and I am happy with it.
In no particular order, my perfect environment consists of:
vim - text editing
git - version control
screen - terminal management
This is all you really need to build a great app in any language, for that matter (baseline). Every language has its specifics, but the above will more than get you started.
The PDT project provides a PHP
Development Tools framework for the
Eclipse platform. This project
encompasses all development components
necessary to develop PHP and
facilitate extensibility. It leverages
the existing Web Tools Platform (WTP)
and Dynamic Languages Toolkit (DLTK)
in providing developers with PHP
capabilities.
You can have a try for eclipse.
http://www.eclipse.org/pdt/
Another one not mentioned in this thread (suitable for PHP and a lot of other dynamic languages):
Komodo Edit (free version of the Komodo IDE)
I really like using Netbeans and SqlSquirrel. Both of these tools are written in Java and they are cross platform compatible. Also an odd note about SqlSquirrel: It uses the Netbeans editor. Also, if you like there are many tutorials and articles on using PHP with Netbeans on their site. Overall, go with the toolset that you like the most. There isn't a single toolset that works with everyone, and for all problems.
I like Eclipse PDT, and it can be used both on Windows (which I use at work) and on Linux (which I use at home).
Features are quite the same as netbeans, I'd say ; especially, you've got nice stuff like graphical debugging, when used with Xdebug.
I'd say that, these days, when it comes to a modern full-IDE for PHP, that works on Linux, and is free, there are two choices : netbeans and Eclipse PDT. Which one you prefer is generally a matter of taste, as far as I can tell.
If you're happy with NetBeans, stick to that as you IDE. Learn to use Vim or emacs just for common knowledge. Use version control, Subversion and git are good choices.
The power of linux is in the command line. Whatever you do outside the IDE, learn to do it with command line. After a while you'll be comfortable with it and you'll discover that there's bunch of stuff you never want to do with GUIs anymore :)
Can someone give examples of some good applications / project that are made in VC++ commercial and non-commercial.
What do you use VC++ for these(2008...) days ?
Do enterprise application three tier i.e get written in VC++
Is there any use in leaning MFC these days?
Computer games are mostly still written in C++ on Windows using Visual Studio. Enterprise applications do usually use c# or java as enterprises have more money to buy hardware to make up for the difference in performance where games need to run on a significant amount of devices such as the PS3, Xbox 360, PS3, Windows, Mac etc. with limitations on memory.
Also embedded products, system utilities and software that makes extensive use of several low level API's are still written in C++. It definitely still has uses.
For low-level stuff, there is still nothing that beats C and C++. For example, I wrote Taekwindow in Visual C++ 2008. It consists mostly of Windows API calls; any other language would be too much of a hassle, and in this case not even possible (hook procedures).
The configuration tool was done in C#, but I am currently redoing that in C++ to make code reuse easier. I did look at MFC briefly, but decided that I didn't like its bloat for such a simple program, so I ended up using only the vanilla Windows API and its dialog manager. Admittedly, I can be a bit of a masochist sometimes.
Microsoft said that they'll improve MSVC because they have customers who have millions of lines of C++ already. For all I know, most well-known, commercial applications for Windows, not to mention Windows itself, are built using MSVC: i.e. applications which have been years in the making.
The most recent time I used MSVC (and MFC) was on a PocketPC/SmartPhone (i.e. Windows Mobile).
The majority of cross platform computer games are always written in VC++ since abstractions are always used anyway. Some platforms such as PS3 even allow for games to be compiled straight out of VC for PS3.
I'd say, anything cross platform that has to run on both Windows, mac and/or linux has a high chance of being written in VC because it's the best IDE out there.
Visual C++ is the ultimate programming tool which is still widely used in Most of the Core Banking and financial products developed by software companies. AS far as I know, adobe products are developed in VC++ and if you want to code anything in windows based pda or phones , vc++ embedded which is also called eVC++ is the way to go. Most of the kernel level rootkits are developed making use of VC++ with DDK functionality. The list goes on like that. There is no reason to consider vc++ as being not used these days.