I am interested in creating a 3D visualization of network packets. A few years ago these things sold for tens of thousands of dollars, but now I think that I can hack one together in a few hours using an open source 3D kit.
I've looked around and have found two kids that look good --- one is Panda3D and the other is CrystalSpace.
My requirements are:
Fast to learn
Able to run from python or C++
Able to work with 50,000 polygons. (I want to represent each packet as a little brick in 3D space.)
This visualization doesn't need to run in a browser.
So I'm looking for advice. My questions:
Which is better for my application, Panda3D or CrystalSpace 3D?
Is there another engine that I should be looking at instead?
Thanks.
If you want to get something going in only a few hours I think your only viable option is Visual Python. It is much faster than Panda3d/Python for large quantities of primitives and has a much easier API. It does not have an option to work from C++ but since it is a very thin wrapper of a C++ back end I don't think you would be able to add too much performance dropping the Python. I can compute and display 8000 lit/shaded rotating boxes at 15fps on my system.
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I'm struggling to choose between a vast number of audio programming languages and APIs. I'm very (totally) new to audio programming so please bear with me.
Software
I need to be able to:
Alter volume of different sounds before outputting them to anything (these sounds can have a variety of different origins, for example mp3s and microphone input)
phase shift sounds
superimpose sounds that I have tweaked (as per items 1 and 2)
control the output to each of 8 channels independently of one another
make this all happen on Windows7
These capabilities need be abstracted by a graphical frontend I will probably make myself. What I want to be able to do is create 'sound sources' and move them around a 3D environment along either pre-defined trajectories and/or in relation to the movement of whoever is inside the rig. The reason I want to do pitch bending is so I can mess with red-shift stuff.
I don't want to have to construct full tracks before-hand and just play them. I want the sound that is played to depend on external input from sensors as well as what I am doing on the frontend.
As far as I know this means I cant use any existing full audio making app.
The Question
I've been looking around for for the API or language I should use and I have not turned up a blank, quite the opposite actually. I'm struggling to narrow down my search. A lot of my problem stems from the fact that I have no experience in audio programming.
So, does anyone know off-hand of an API or language that meets my criteria?
Hardware stuff and goals
(I left this until last because I'm not sure how relevant it is)
My goal is to make three rings of speakers at different heights and to have enough control over them to be able to simulate any number of 'sound sources' within the array. The idea is to have someone stand in the middle of the rig and be able to make it sound like there are lots of things moving around them. To get this working I'm planning on doing a little trig and using 8 channels of audio from my PC. The maths is pretty straight forward, it just the rest that I need to worry about
What I want to do next is attach a bunch of cameras to the thing and do some simple image recognition stuff to be able to 'attach sound sources' to different objects. Eg. If someone is standing in the right place it can be made to seem as though all red balls quack like a duck, and all orange ones moan hauntingly.
This is not to detract from Richard Small's answer, but to comment on some of the other options out there:
If you are looking for something higher-level with which you can prototype and develop this faster, you want max/msp or it's open source competitor puredata. These are designed for musicians who are technically minded, but not so much for programmers. As a result, you can build this sort of thing quickly and efficiently.
You also have some lower level options: PortAudio can handle your audio I/O, you would have to do the sound generation and effects and so on on your own or with other libraries. Cinder and OpenFramewoks both provide interfaces for audio, cameras, and other stuff for "creative programming". I'm afraid I don't know if they meet your full requirements, but they are powerful and popular for this sort of thing so I encorage you to look at them.
The two major ones these days tend to be
WWise
WWise Download Link
FMOD
FMOD Download Link
These two engines may even in fact be overkill for what you need, but I can almost guarantee that they will be capable of anything you require.
I've been studying 3D graphics on my own for a while now and I want to get a greater understanding of just how everything works. What I would like to do is to create a simple game without using DirectX or OpenGL. I understand most of the math I believe, but the problem I am running up against is I do not know how to get control of the pixels being displayed in a window.
How do I specify what color I want each pixel in my window to be?
I understand I will probably run into issues with buffers and image shearing and probably terrible efficiency problems, but I want to create my own program so that I could see from the very lowest level, of the high level language, how the rendering process works. I really have no idea where to start though. I've figured out how to output BMPs, but I would like to have a running program spitting out 20+ frames per second. How do I accomplish this?
You could pick a environment that allows you to fill an array with values for pixels and display it as a bitmap. This way you come closest to poking RGB values in video memory. WPF, Silverlight, HTML5/Javascript can do this. If you do not make it full screen these technologies should suffice for now.
In WPF and Silverlight, use the WriteableBitmap.
In HTML5, use the canvas
Then it is up to you to implement the logic to draw lines, circles, bezier curves, 3D projections.
This is a lot of fun and you will learn a lot.
I'm reading between the lines that you're more interested in having full control over the rendering process from a low level, rather than having a specific interest in how to achieve that on one specific platform.
If that's the case then you will probably get a good bang for your buck looking at a library like SDL which provides you with a frame buffer that you can render to directly but abstracts away a lot of the platform specifics issues. It has been around for quite a while and there are some good tutorials to give you an idea of whether it's the kind of thing you're looking for - see this tutorial and the subsequent one in the same series, which should be enough to get you up and running.
You say you want to create some kind of a rendering engine, meaning desinging you own Pipeline and matrice classes. Which you are to use to transform 3D coordinates to 2D points.
When you have got the 2D points you've been looking for. You can use say for instance on windows, you can select a brush and draw you triangle values while coloring them at the same time.
I do not know why you would need Bitmaps, but if you want to practice say Texturing you can also do that yourself although off course on a weak computer this might take your frames per second significantly.
If you aim is to understand how rendering works on the lowest level. This is with no doubt a good practice.
Jt Schwinschwiga
I want to build a program that will (as part of what it's doing) display lines organically growing and interacting horizontally across the screen. Here's a sample image, just imagine the lines sprouting from the left and growing to the right:
The lines would look like the lines used on Google Maps Transit Overlay or OnNYTurf's transit pages.
It's a personal project, so I'm open to just about any language and library combination. But I don't know where to start. What have you used in the past to create graphics that are similar to this? What would you recommend? I want it to run on Windows without any extras needed (.Net is fine), and it doesn't have to run elsewhere. I needs to run as an actual program, not javascript in the browser.
There's obviously no 'right' answer to this, but the purpose isn't to start an argument about X better than Y but rather just find a list of graphics toolkits that do simple 2D graphics that people recommend because of their ease of use or community or whatever.
Processing may be just the tool for you.
Like you said, there are many ways to tackle this problem. Me personally, being it is a windows based project, I would go with the .NET based implementation utilizing WPF. There are tutorials on how to use the 2D drawing feature out there ( http://www.wpftutorial.net/DrawOnPhysicalDevicePixels.html for one ) Again, there is no right answer here. I might also pick some new technology and let your project be a mechanism to learn something new, providing you do not have a looming deadline.
I am in the process of developping a game, and after two months of work (not full time mind you), I have come to realise that our specs for the game are lacking a lot of details. I am not a professional game developper, this is only a hobby.
What I would like to receive help or advices for is this: What are the major components that you find in games, that have to be developped or already exists as librairies? The objective of this question is for me to be able to specify more game aspects.
Currently, we had specified pretty much only how we would work on the visual, completely forgetting everything about game logic (AI, Entities interactions, Quest logic (how do we decide whether or not a quest is completed)).
So far, I have found those points:
Physics (collision detection, actual forces, etc.)
AI (pathfinding, objectives, etc.)
Model management
Animation management
Scene management
Combat management
Inventory management
Camera (make sure not to render everything that is in the scene)
Heightmaps
Entities communication (Player with NPC, enemy, other players, etc)
Game state
Game state save system
In order to reduce the scope of this queston, I'd like it if you could specifically discuss aspects related to developping an RPG type of game. I will also point out that I am using XNA to develop this game, but I have almost no grasp of all the classes available yet (pretty much only using the Game component with some classes that are related to it such as GameTime, SpriteBatch, GraphicDeviceManager) but not much more.
You have a decent list, but you are missing storage (save load), text (text is important in RPGs : Unicode, font rendering), probably a macro system for text (something that replaces tokens like {player} with the player characters name), and most important of all content generation tools (map editor, chara editor, dialog editor) because RPGs need content (or auto generation tools if you need ). By the way have links to your work?
I do this exact stuff for a living so if you need more pointers perhaps I can help.
I don't know if this is any help, but I have been reading articles from http://www.gamasutra.com/ for many years.
I don't have a perfect set of tools from the beginning, but your list covers most of the usual trouble for RUNNING the game. But have you found out what each one of the items stands for? How much have you made already? "Inventory Management" sounds very heavy, but some games just need a simple "array" of objects. Takes an hour to program + some graphical integration (if you have your GUI Management done already).
How to start planning
When I develop games in my spare time, I usually get an idea because another game lacks this function/option. Then I start up what ever development tool I am currently using and try to see if I can make a prototype showing this idea. It's not always about fancy graphics, but most often it's more about finding out how to solve a certain problem. Green and red boxes will help you most of the way, but otherwise, use Google Images and do a quick search for prototype graphics. But remember that these images are probably copyrighted, so only use them for internal test purposes and to explain to your graphic artists what type of game/graphic you want to make.
Secondly, you'll find that you need to find/build tools to create the "maps/missions/quests" too. Today many develop their own "object script" where they can easily add new content/path to a game.
Many of the ideas we (my friends and I) have been testing started with a certain prototype of the interface, to see if its possible to generate that sort of screen output first. Then we build a quick'n'dirty map/level-editor that can supply us with test maps.
No game logic at this point, still figuring out if the game-engine in general is running.
My first game-algorithm problem
Back when I was in my teens I had a Commodore 64 and I was wondering, how do they sort 10 numbers in order for a Highscore? It took me quite a while to find a "scalable" way of doing this, but I learned a lot about programming too.
The second problem I found
How do I make a tank/cannon fire a bullet in the correct direction when I fly my helicopter around the screen?
I sat down and drew quick sketches of the actual problem, looked at the bullet lines, tried some theories of my own and found something that seemed to be working (by dividing and multiplying positions etc.) later on in school I discovered this to be more or less Pythagoras. LOL!
Years and many game attempts later
I played "Dune" and the later C&C + the new game Warcraft (v1/v2) - I remember it started to annoyed me how the lame AI worked. The path finding algorithms were frustrating for the player, I thought. They moved in direction of target position and then found a wall, but if the way was to complex, the object just stopped. Argh!
So I first sat with large amounts of paper, then I tried to draw certain scenarios where an "object" (tank/ork/soldier) would go from A to B and then suddenly there was a "structure" (building/other object) in the pathway - what then?
I learned about A-star pathfinding (after solving it first on my own in a similar way, then later reading about the reason for this working). A very "cpu heavy" way of finding a path, but I learned a lot from the process of "cracking this nut". These thoughts have helped me a lot developing other game algortimes over time.
So what I am saying is: I think you'll have to think more of:
How is the game to be played?
What does the user experience look like?
Why would the user want to come back to the game?
What requirements are needed? Broadband? 19" monitor with 1280x1024?
An RPG, yes - but will it be multi-user or single?
Do we need a fast network/server setup or do we need to develop a strong AI for the NPCs?
And much more...
I am not sure this is what you asked for, but I hope you can use it somehow?
There are hundreds of components needed to make a game, from time management to audio. You'll probably need to roll your own GUI, as native OS controls are very non-gamey. You will probably also need all kinds of tools to generate your worlds, exporters to convert models and textures into something suitable for your game etc.
I would strongly recommend that you start with one of the many free or cheap game engines that are out there. Loads of them come with the source code, so you can learn how they have been put together as you go.
When you think you are ready, you can start to replace parts of the engine you are using to better suit your needs.
I agree with Robert Gould's post , especially about tools and I'd also add
Scripting
Memory Management
Network - especially replication of game object states and match-making
oh and don't forget Localisation - particularly for text strings
Effects and effect timers (could be magical effects, could just be stuff like being stunned.)
Character professions, skills, spells (if that kind of game).
World creation tools, to make it easy for non-programmer builders.
Think about whether or not you want PvP. If so, you need to really think about how you're going to do your combat system and any limits you want on who can attack whom.
Equipment, "treasure", values of things and how you want to do the economy.
This is an older question, but IMHO now there is a better answer: use Unity (or something akin to it). It gives you 90% of what you need to make a game up front, so you can jump in and focus directly on the part you care about, which is the gameplay. When you run aground because there's something it doesn't do out of the box, you can usually find a resource in the Asset Store for free or cheap that will save you a lot of work.
I would also add that if you're not working on your game full-time, be mindful of the complexity and the time-frame of the task. If you'll try to integrate so many different frameworks into your RPG game, you can easily end up with several years worth of work; maybe it would be more advisable to start small and only develop the "core" of your game first and not bother about physics, for example. You could still add it in the second version.
My realtime app generates a data log: 100 words of data #10Khz. I need to analyze it and produce some plots of the results. There are intermediate calculations involved - I need to take some differences, averages, etc. Excel would work fine, except for:
the 32000 item limit on graph data series is too small - that's only 3 seconds of data.
the glacial speed at which it processes changes to graphs containing large data series is unbearable.
What are good alternatives to Excel for manipulating and plotting large quantities of data? I'm looking for something interactive, not a library.
For this sort of stuff we typically roll our own, but I know that isn't the solution you want. Can you use a good quality database (eg Oracle) to do the manipulation, then maybe put the summarized data back into Excel for the plotting? I believe Excel will link to databases these days, so you could make it quite automated.
Otherwise there are statistical tools like [SAS][1], but get your cheque book out first.
[1]: http://www.sas.com/technologies/analytics/statistics/stat/index.html SAS
There are also several free tools for analysing and plotting (see below). But I am not sure whether they have components to handle data in real-time.
R (similar to SAS) for statistical computations
octave (similar to Matlab) for mathematical computations
R (for data manipulation) and its ggplot2 module for creating sexy graphs. Incredibly useful.
If you need real-time graphics, then I'd look at building something using matplotlib. It's a Python module, and you can link it to R using rpy2 if required.
In particle and nuclear physics the big tool is ROOT, which I have seen used in a "update every two seconds as the data comes in" mode with a lot of data and a modest amount of intermediate processing.
Mind you, the student who wrote that module was a very slick programmer, and it took a while to shake the bugs out, even so.
ROOT is available for free, and provides all kinds of tools and support.