I have looking to Haskell questions in SO, and I recovering my university notes on functional programming as a hobby. But I've always wondered how could something done in Haskell get outside Hugs interpreter and integrate with a C#, C++ or Java project. Has anybody done that? How?
Well, first of all, Haskell compiles to machine code, so you don't have to worry about the interpreter bit.
As far as integrating with other languages, your best bet is the Foreign Function Interface.
For integrating with .NET projects, there is also http://haskell.forkio.com/dotnet/
To integrate with other code, you need to use the FFI (as was already said). Usually, you would use GHC (the Glasgow Haskell Compiler) and compile to machine code, rather than use an interpreter like Hugs. (Most "real" projects use GHC instead of Hugs.)
Python has a subset which is pretty much a functional language.
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I'm wondering if there is some way to make Haskell run on the JVM (compiled or interpreted)?
There exists JHaskell on Sourceforge but this one seems to be empty and dead.
GHC uses LLVM as compiler backend. Would it be a good idea or possible to compile LLVM to Java bytecode? Or maybe use a different compiler backend?
You may want to investigate Frege. Quoting from that page:
"Frege is a non-strict, pure functional programming language in the spirit of Haskell."
"Frege programs are compiled to Java and run in a JVM."
Based on a brief perusal of the language specification, Frege looks to be nearly a Haskell clone. Perhaps the phrase "in the spirit of Haskell" is simpy intended to set the proper expectation.
Haskell works beautifully on the JVM. See Eta, a project that brings full GHC 7.10.3 Haskell onto the JVM with type-safe Java interop.
The only language I know that is close to haskell in the JVM is CAL. CAL is heavily based on haskell but it doesn't have all haskell's features. The type system is similar to Haskell 98, and syntactic sugar like do notation is missing.
Here's a comparison of Haskell and CAL: CAL for Haskell Programmers
The eclipse plugin is very polished and useful.
Note that CAL is part of the Open Quark framework.
main site: http://openquark.org/Welcome.html
download page: http://openquark.org/Download.html
Source on Github: https://github.com/levans/Open-Quark
There are big but surmountable impediments to GHC building to the JVM:
http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/GHC:FAQ#Why_isn.27t_GHC_available_for_.NET_or_on_the_JVM.3F
(Got a spare year or two to make it happen?)
In Common Lisp, programs are often produced as binaries with a translator bundled inside. StumpWM is a good example.
How would one do the same with Haskell and OCaml?
It is not necessary to provide a debugger as well, as Common Lisp does, the aim is to make extensions while not depending on the whole translator package ( xmonad which requires GHC ).
P.S. I know about ocamlmktop, and it works great, except I don't really get why it requires "pervasives.cmi" and doesn't bundle it with the binary. So, best thing I can do is mycustomtoplevel -I /path/to/dir/with/pervasives.cmi/. Any way to override it?
This isn't really possible for (GHC) Haskell - you would either need to to ship the application binary + GHC so you can extend via GHC-API, or embed an extension language. I don't think there are any "off-the-shelf" extension languages to embed in Haskell at the moment, though HsLua might be close. This is a bridge to the the standard (C source) Lua. There was a thread on Haskell-cafe last month about extension languages written in Haskell, I think the answer was 'there aren't any'.
http://www.haskell.org/pipermail/haskell-cafe/2010-November/085830.html
With GHC, there is GHC-API, which allows you to embed ghci-like interpreters in your program. It's a quite low-level and often changing library, since it simply provides access to GHC internas.
Then, there is Hint, a library which aims to encapsulate ghc-api behind a well designed and more stable interface.
Nevertheless, I've recently switched from using either of these packages to using an external ghci. The external ghci process is controlled via standard input/output pipes. This change made it easy to stay compatible with GHC 6.12.x and 7.0.x, while our ghc-api code broke with GHC 7.x and hint didn't work out of the box either. I don't know whether there is a new version of hint available, which works with GHC 7.
For Ocaml, have you tried using findlib? See the section Custom Toploops.
I currently program in Perl, Python, C#, C, C++, Java, and a few other languages, and I'm looking for a new language to use as a primary when doing personal projects.
My current criteria are:
can be run as an interpreted language (i.e., run without having to wait to compile it);
can be compiled to native code;
are strongly typed (even if optionally);
support macros/templating/code morphing/wtf you want to call it;
has a decent number of libraries for it, or easily accessible to it;
Ideas? Suggestions?
I would suggest that Haskell suits your criteria.
Can be run as an interpreted language? Yes, via GHCI.
Can be compiled to native code? Yes.
Is strongly typed? Very much so. Perhaps even the most strongly typed language today, with the exception of some theorem provers like Agda.
Support macros/templating/morphing? If you use template haskell. This is an optional extension of the language however, so most libraries don't use macros. I haven't used template haskell myself so i can't comment on if it's any good.
Has decent library support? The standard library is not bad. There is also Hackage, an open repository of Haskell libraries a bit in the style of CPAN.
Additionally, it sounds like you already know a lot of imperative/object oriented languages. IMHO if you learn another one of those langs. it will probably be a slightly different permutation of features you've already seen somewhere else. Adding another programming paradigm like functional programming to your toolbox will probably be a better learning experience. Though I guess whether that's an advantage or not depends on if you want to learn new things or be productive quickly.
Common Lisp fits: there is an optional typing, efficient native compilation is available, powerful REPL makes it a perfect choice for scripting, and there is a powerful macro metaprogramming.
OCaml fits as well, with CamlP4 for metaprogramming.
Scala? It does run scripts, although they are compiled (transparently) first. I'm not sure what you mean by code morphing etc, but it's pretty good for DSLs. It meets all your other requirements - compiled as much as Java is, strongly typed, and has a reasonable number of its own libraries as well as all of Java's. I'm still a beginner with it, but I like it so far.
Is there a programming language, having usable interactive interpreter, even as it can be compiled to machine code?
Compilation vs. "interpretation" is essentially a matter of implementation, not the language itself. For example, MRI Ruby 1.8 is interpreted, while MacRuby is compiled to native machine code. Both include an interactive REPL. All the languages I know that have at least one machine-code compiler and at least one REPL:
Ruby
Python
Almost all Lisps (Lisp was the language that pioneered this technique, AFAIK)
OCaml
Haskell
Forth
If we're counting compilation to bytecode as well as machine code, it's true of the vast majority of popular bytecode-compiled languages:
Java
Scala
Groovy
Erlang
C#
F#
Smalltalk
Haskell, using the Glasgow Haskell Compiler which has an interactive "shell" called GHCi.
Many flavors of Lisp offer both options, including Clojure.
Two come to my mind : ocaml and scala (~= java), but I'm sure there must be a lot more out there.
And here's another one to burn your house down:
x86 Assembly
Yup, there are interpreters for this as well.
Javascript x86 Assembly Interpreter
Jasmin
At this point you're really in emulator land, but it does meet the requirements you state.
I'm wondering if it's easier to name compiled languages that someone hasn't cobbled up a working interpreter for. :-)
Lua has an interactive mode for one-liners and experimentation. It normally compiles to bytecode for its VM for execution. LuaJIT is an independent implementation of a Lua VM that also does just-in-time compilation to 32-bit x86. Support for 64-bit is underway, and support for ARM is frequently requested.
Compilation to a bytecode is often a reasonable compromise between a pure interpreter and a pure compiler. The VM can be tuned to the needs of the language, and JIT techniques can analyze the VM code as it executes and concentrate on frequently executed code paths and inner loops.
As others have mentioned, OCaml.
If managed code (.NET CLI) is close enough to machine code, F# would be a candidate as well. There are probably other .NET/Mono languages which meet the requirement as well.
You may regret you asked:
C and C++.
Why?
Ch
CINT
EIC
picocc
and there are probably others out there as well.
Plenty of languages offer an implementation that both interacts and compiles to machine code, but it's rare to do both at once. Standard ML of New Jersey is one that has an interactive loop but no bytecode: it simply compiles to machine code in memory and then branches to it.
Not exactly machine code, but Java can be compiled and also used via BeanShell.
I've used Ruby with an interpreter, and there seems to be a compiler here.
Icon used to have a compiler, but it falls in and out of maintenence. It may still work.
Python can be compiled to windows executables.
C# can be compiled by using SnippetCompiler, maybe this would act as an interactive interpreter for you?
Your question is a bit vague. Even Java would fit it:
by interactive interpreter, i mean
shell-like environment, where you can
work in the runtime interactively.
Java has this, e.g. in the Eclipse "scrapbook pages", where you can enter Java expressions and have them evaluated right away. Java is of course also a compiled language (and while it's usually compiled to bytecode, there are various compilers that output machine code).
So what are you looking for? Maybe you could explain your problem or interest.
I tried using mono/.net for a bit and found random GC pauses to be disagreeable (at least on my crusty old laptop). I looked at using gambit-c an implementation of scheme that can compile to C but it seemed difficult to work with because the docs were somewhat limited and the packages where not very easy to install and use.
I usually just stick to having an interpreted language such as python bound to C/C++ which is more painful but at least I know what I am in for.
Can anyone point to programming language which has python-like syntax, but from the very beginning was designed to generate native code? I'm aware of Boo only, but it uses .net, not native code generation. Well, if nothing else than python-like languages which generate .net/java bytecode are fine too.
Cython might do -- the C code it generates is for Python extensions, but the whole thing can be packaged up and you'll be running native code throughout (after the 'import';-).
I must admit that I don't quite understand your question, for two reasons:
You are asking for a language with native code generation, but native code generation has nothing to do with the language, it is a trait of the implementation. Every language can have an implementation with native code generation. Several Python implementations have native code generation. There are C compilers that compile to JVM bytecode, CIL bytecode or even ECMAScript sourcecode. There are even C interpreters. There are also compilers that compile Java sourcecode or JVM bytecode to native code.
Why do you care about the syntax? It is probably the least important factor about choosing a programming language.
Anyway, Nim is a programming language which has an implementation which supports native code generation (or more precisely an implementation which supports C source code generation) and whose syntax is a hybrid between Wirthian style (by the looks of it the most important influences are Oberon and Delphi) and Python.
However, the fact that it has Pythonic syntax isn't going to help you at all if you don't like European style language design or Wirthian style OOP.
Also found today Delight applying Python syntax on a D back-end.
And Converge too.
Check out Cobra
It is strongly influenced by Python, C#, Eiffel, Objective-C and other programming languages. It supports both static and dynamic typing. It has first class support for unit tests and contracts. Cobra provides both rapid development and performance in the same language.
shedskin compiles Python to C++
From shedskin project page
Shed Skin is an experimental compiler,
that can translate pure, but
implicitly statically typed Python
programs into optimized C++. It can
generate stand-alone programs or
extension modules that can be imported
and used in larger Python programs.
Genie which is part of the gnome project: http://live.gnome.org/Genie
I think it's exactly what you're looking for.
If you are happy with something that compiles down to Java bytecode you could have a look at Jython. Quoting from their FAQ:
JPython is an implementation of the Python programming language which is designed to run on the Java(tm) Platform. It consists of a compiler to compile Python source code down to Java bytecodes which can run directly on a JVM, a set of support libraries which are used by the compiled Java bytecodes, and extra support to make it trivial to use Java packages from within JPython.
I've not actually used it yet but am considering it on some projects where I have to integrate with existing an Java codebase.
HTH
PyPy is a project to re-implement Python in Python. One of it's goals is to allow the use of multiple back-ends, including C. So you can take a pure Python program, convert it to C and compile it to native code. It is still a work in progress, so probably not suitable for production code.
You can find all of the previously mentioned languages, plus some more, here: http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonImplementations
Nim is a statically typed compiled systems programming language. It combines successful concepts from mature languages like Python, Ada and Modula.
https://nim-lang.org/
You can also investigate IronPython - a python inplementation on the .NET framework
You can try Genie. It's the same like Vala, but with Python-like syntax. If you want to develop apps for Linux with GTK, and you want to compile it to native app, Vala or Genie is really good choice.