Does anyone know how a bluetooth device could pick up the discoverable devices' device IDs in range?
I am ideally looking for the simplest solution that involves the smallest implimentation of the bluetooth protocols.
A starting point would be good, I just wish to create a device that can store all the device ids of nearby bluetooth devices with minimal power consumption, preferably just using radio frequencies and not SDP and whatever else.
If you can't help me with this, please can you help me find good reading material for low level bluetooth (step by step) communication. The reading online is so high level that I cant work out what is actually sent, when.
Laalto nailed the answer from the Bluetooth spec/stack POV, but your question implies your looking for a stand-alone Bluetooth device - not just a laptop app scanning surrounding devices.
I can only speak for the BT chips that the company I work for manufactures (Cambridge Silicon Radio - CSR) but our chips can do that pretty much out of the box. Our chips have an on-board Virtual Machine sandbox that allows access to the firmware functions and Bluetooth stack of the chip. You can easily write a C code app to run in the virtual machine sandbox, on chip, that periodically scans for discoverable devices around, grab their ids and then download them when connected via USB or Serial, or maybe over BT when a device connects to the listener directly.
www.csr.com and www.csrsupport.com for chips, dev-kits, design references, etc.. etc...
You probably want a module with the extra HW (UARTs, USB etc...) as well as just the chip but you could implement this with something the size of a BlueTooth USB or probably smaller.
It would really help to know more about what your trying to achieve, why you want something that just scans the surrounding bluetooth devices and how big the device needs to be.
Sorry if this sounds like advertising. For balance: Broadcom make BT chips too!
The Bluetooth specs from http://www.bluetooth.org are a good starting place for low-level information. You need an account to access the specs, but you can create one for free.
Basically what you need to do is to go into Inquiry mode periodically and grab the response packets as they arrive. The more time you spend in Inquiry mode, the more likely you will discover devices in range: discoverable devices enter the Inquiry Scan mode only relatively rarely; it takes some time (10.24s at least with older Bluetooth versions) to scan all the possible frequencies in the Inquiry/Inquiry Scan frequency hopping schemes. And even then you can have suboptimal radio conditions.
For implementation I suggest you at least start with existing Bluetooth libraries such as BlueZ and do not attempt to create your own from scratch.
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I wonder whether it is possible to emulate a specific bluetooth device like a Remote Controller for a TV or another device with my PC. I'd be okay with installing an additional hardware device for my computer (e. g. a BlueTooth PCIe card).
I imagined something like "recording" all single commands of my original remote controller using my Bluetooth card and afterwards use these recorded commands to turn on my TV for example.
Is something like this possible (with additional hardware maybe)?
Of course this is possible. Bluetooth is just a protocol and you can impliment it in your custom software to emulate all kinds of devices. If you need to emulate simple devices like keyboard or mouse, there are many ready solutions like this.
But if you have non standard device, there won't be any ready solutions and you will have to implement it yourself. What can help you:
If you have some kind of controller for PC and you want to emulate device with unknown protocol, you can use WireShark or other sniffer to understand what's going on.
There is an emulator called BT-Sim, but it is so poorly documented that I can't even guess what it does.
You can can take as example different android software like described in answers to this question.
You can check different program samples for PC like this.
For hardware you need only simple Bluetooth dongle. However, if you want to spy on some BLE (Bluetooth Low Energy) devices, you can buy hardware sniffer like this.
(At least in Windows 10) Microsoft Store has an application called "Bluetooth LE Explorer" which is able to simulate different kind of Bluetooth GATT profiles as a peripheral.
I'm not sure how to correctly phrase this question, as I'm just starting to learn Bluetooth and its ways, but... imagine holding in an iPhone or Android phone in your hand in a large building with many rooms. You pair your device with a Bluetooth master device via an antenna in that room. Then once you move from room to room, your device communicates with other antennas throughout the building, but the device treats it as one pairing.
Is this at all possible? Was Bluetooth developed with this in mind at all?
Would this still work if the antennas were wireless? My idea is for devices to communicate with nodes via Bluetooth, and nodes interact with central base via wi-fi/local router.
Also, third random question: how does using BLE affect any of this?
Please tell me if I'm crazy! Thanks!
Bluetooth 4.0 BLE allows for a slave to connect to one master. 4.1 BLE allows for more than one connection, but I don't know if anything implements that yet.
Either way, there's no sort of "roaming" method pairing devices like with wifi access points with the same SSID. BLE however doesn't require pairing like regular Bluetooth, so you could just connect to a new access point each time you lose a connection.
You can also communicate via advertising packets from the "antenna" in each room. This would facilitate information being passed from those rooms to the phone, but not the other way around. This is basically how you communicate with BLE when you don't pair/connect devices and is how iBeacons work.
If you're writing the software yourself, and installing it in the building and on the phone, then I think it should be totally possible. Bluetooth devices can detect the distance and direction of other bluetooth devices. So if both devices are running software that is designed to, and grants permission to do so, it should be no-big-deal to programmatically auto-reconnect to the new nearest antenna whenever one becomes significantly closer than the one that your phone is currently connected to. As for software that already does this that you wouldn't have to develop from scratch yourself, no idea.
I am working on a project where I need to attach a sensor to the computer like laser sensor or an infrared sensor, to use in a foul line detection. Basically the idea is, if someone steps on the foul line, the laser or infrared will be blocked by person's foot, and the laser/infrared won't be received by the receiver, causing the sensor to send a signal to the computer.
The problem is, I don't know where to start something like this. How would I go about attaching a sensor to a normal computer (like a normal PC that we use)? If someone could direct me into a direction or has any inputs, that would be really appreciated. Thanks a lot!
You may want to look at Arduino (http://www.arduino.cc/). It is an open-source microcontroller that can be used along with a computer and is designed to be hooked up to various types of sensors. It also has an extremely helpful, active support community.
There are several approaches to the task of bringing the sensor signal into a PC (to take advantage of PC's computing power, good user interface, connectivity to the web).
Look for integrated sensors that have an interface for attaching to a PC (RS-232, USB, Ethernet). For example, you may find something useful by googling photodetector USB.
There are I/O (input/output) devices for PC. They have analog and digital inputs and outputs. Look up LabJack, National Instruments USB-6008 and dozen other types of commercial USB I/O boxes.
Connect sensors to a microcontroller (uC), then connect uC to the PC through a USB or RS-232 or Bluetooth (the list goes on). This involves more hardware. You'll need to write firmware for the microcontroller too.
Obviously, which approach to choose depends on your skills (or willingness to acquire new ones), timing, budget, team structure (if it's a team effort).
You could use a photo-transistor and a Yocto-Knob. The Yocto-knob is an USB device able to quickly detect resistivity changes, you just have to connect the photo-transistor to it. Here is an application which looks pretty similar to yours: they use a light barrier to detect and photograph a fast object:
http://www.yoctopuce.com/EN/article/how-to-drive-a-camera-shutter-automatically
I'm looking to implement the Bluetooth protocol over a physical Wi-Fi based transport, if that makes sense.
Basically my phone has Bluetooth, and my laptop has a Wi-Fi card (802.11a/b/g).
I know that Wi-Fi operates over the range 2.412 GHz - 2.472 GHz, and that Bluetooth operates over the range 2.402 GHz - 2.480 GHz.
I couldn't help but notice the overlap here. So my questions are:
What sort of low-level APIs would I need (preferably in C, on Windows) in order to send a signal out at certain frequencies on the Wi-Fi card?
Would I be able to implement a Bluetooth stack on top of this?
So basically, can I transmit Bluetooth using my Wi-Fi card as essentially a radio transmitter?
Thanks
Implementing the Bluetooth protocol over a physical Wi-Fi based transport does make sense!
Bluetooth high speed (v3.0) defines the possibility to use alternate MAC/PHY layers, known as AMP feature. The L2CAP and higher layer protocols from Bluetooth can be transmitted over a Wi-Fi MAC/PHY layer rather than a Bluetooth MAC/PHY layer with a resulting higher throughput. Some products are on the marked supporting this - look for 'Bluetooth High Speed', AMP or Bluetooth v3.0 support.
No, you can't do this. Bluetooth devices are typically wrapped up all in one chip. Plus, they use completely different modulation techniques. No low-level anything is going to allow you to transmit anything different, unless you are flashing the device. Even then, it may not get you much closer.
Bluetooth Modulation Information:
http://www.palowireless.com/infotooth/tutorial/radio.asp and http://classes.engr.oregonstate.edu/eecs/spring2003/ece44x/groups/g9/jon_gillen/white_paper_jon.pdf
About the only thing you can share between WiFi and Bluetooth devices is the antenna. (Assuming only one device is using it at a time... don't blast 32mW into the receiver of the other radio!) The radio itself is all wrapped up into the same chip. The same is generally true for WiFi.
Bluetooth and Wifi have different phy layer protocols and thats what is coded into their chips, hence you can't use one chip to transmit packets of the other protocol.
Moreover most of the chip vendors, do not expose any RF logic.
Technically yes but there are some things to consider such as the pre existing coding on the chip and if the chip can support Bluetooth coding as well as wifi coding, I mean if you have two separate wifi chips go ahead and try but be warned I tried and nearly killed my computer because of preexisting copyright protection coding on other parts of my pc that prevented any programs on the chip from starting until I reset the chip to factory defalts.
I am looking at integrating a C# application with a barcode scanner.
The last time I did this was with Delphi 1 (win 3.11) using a scanner that plugged in-line into the keyboard cable.
Looking around it appears most scanners are USB based these days and assume they emulate keyboard entry.
Anybody know of more sophisticated/programmable scanner that can call a webservice or even just do a basic POST/GET this would eliminate the C# application and the computer to support it?
There are a number of Ethernet and Wifi code readers on the market, though they tend to be targeted at industrial applications and usually cost more than the USB models. The company I work for makes such readers, and our fixed-mount DM200 reader is just such a device.
You could use a small computer (or even a microcontroller) with RO media, USB, and networking capabilities plus a psu to turn any suitable scanner to a network one. Raspberry Pi, for example, could do it and seems to be hip these days.
Alternatively some portable devices (like Android tablets) could probably use a camera or even a USB scanner for scanning codes and come with capable networking features.