Many of my users have been telling me that they'd like to run my software on their Linux machines under Wine.
But I'm a Windows Developer who has practically no experience with Linux.
Now I could spend a month or two installing Linux, learning Linux, installing Wine, learning Wine, and thoroughly ensure my application runs well under Wine. But I am still developing for Windows, so I don't want to take so much time away from development right now.
So what can I do without too much effort to get my program running as well as possible under Wine?
I did find this General help on running applications under Wine.
Download VMWare and an Ubuntu virtual machine (Ubuntu is a popular Linux distribution) from the VMWare site. This will provide you with a working Linux O/S inside your Windows environment without needing to install Linux manually.
You can then use the instructions here to install Wine, that Wiki page also provides you with some instructions on how to use it.
If you follow what Adam Rosenfield suggested and just try running your application in Wine unmodified, you will be able to determine quickly whether there are problems. My guess would be that there are some, otherwise your users would not have contacted you about it :)
There are many ways for getting help with debugging applications in Wine, consult the website for options and pick a few ways that suit you. As always, it's best not to rely on a single channel for communication.
Also, if you are more comfortable with developing in Windows, the approach of using a virtual machine will allow you to compile your code as usual in Windows and copy the binary into the virtual machine for testing (Ubuntu supports browsing/mounting Windows shares).
As long as you're not doing anything unusual such as playing around with hardware or poking around in undocumented API calls and data structures, you should be able to run your code under Wine with few or no modifications. Wine has a fairly complete implementation of the public Windows APIs, so if your program plays nice and doesn't mess around, it should just work.
Don't use too much of the windows API! Don't use anything new from Microsoft ;)
Avoid using WPF is the #1 suggestion.
But it really wouldn't kill you to test your app under Wine. It's not that hard to try; it certainly won't take months. For instance:
Use http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#wubi to install
Ubuntu into a file on your Windows machine, then start ubuntu and install the latest Wine from
http://winehq.org/download/deb
Then try running your app's installer.
If it doesn't work, check the Wine FAQ, ask for help in one of the wine forums, and/or file bugs in wine's bug tracker.
Should take about three hours from a dead start to trying out your installer.
I was rather surprised when one of my Delphi5 applications just worked out of the zip.
The only real way this is going to work is to do it yourself, i.e. install vmware and a linux distro as Sean suggested. Linux isn't actually that hard, and we're all here to help.
Having done a quick test I can confirm that it largely works. There is an ACCVIO reading 0x34 during start up, the error dialog can be ignored and the application runs, I opened the Steve McCarthy GEDCOM.
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This was using Wine 1.1.12 under MEPIS 7.9.94-rc1_32 under VMWare. Highly recommend to use VMWare for this sort of thing.
What language/platform do you develop with? Depending on which it is, it should be no trouble to get it running native. For example, if you use Java or Python, both operate very cleanly on Linux. Likewise, if you're a .NET developer, you should be able, with some pain, to get your app running in Mono.
Find Linux beta testers. It can reports a bug to WINE developers or find a bug in your application.
Wine is more sensitive to errors than Windows. For example, Wine will crash on NULL window handles, and fail to create windows if the class is invalid, whereas Windows is more robust and will just circumvent the error.
It's an opportunity to clean up your code.
I was amazed at how well Wine ran my app the first time I tried. However, I had to get rid of a third-party driver-based component.
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Last Thursday I was asked to code fairly small app for an Android device and I went with React-Native. The app is now in the testing phase (it's really small) and I was asked again if we could also deploy the app on a Windows machine.
I code exclusively in Linux, but I also know about NW.js which does produce an output for both Linux, Mac and Windows regardless of the environment, so I said : "Sure! I'll see what I can do!"
But reading the react-native-windows' documentation, I'm not sure if that's possible. At least it is not clear to me.
So the question is not really "can it be done?" but rather "how can it be done?" I could request a Windows machine if I have to, but if I can avoid it I'd rather not go there because that would mean maintaining two computers where one'd be used only for that purpose, etc.
Edit : Basically, I am wondering if it is possible to generate an executable JAR archive of a React-Native project which then can be launched from any Java-supported desktop computer.
I have some desktop linux software, which I'd like to use on Windows and make it as much easy to install as possible. Easier than "go install VirtualBox and use this Ubuntu image with all the preinstalled stuff".
I've looked at "portable ubuntu project" (which can be run as usual win-32 application) but it does not feel like something robust, and has old 10 version of ubuntu in it. And seems like you can't use it on 64-bit Windows.
Or if there is no other way - can you recommend a way to create a super robust automatic windows installer which will install VirtualBox and create a virtual machine using snapshot? I need it to run smoothly on very wide range of new and old versions of MS Windows.
Or actually any thoughts on this topic would be much appreciated.
We have a third party vendor running a program/service on my servers. We need to monitor that process and see if that process is using a lot of memory or dumping/uploading lot of data or accessing any other process/stuff that it is supposed not to access.
What is the best possible way to do this? Since it is a prod box, we are not supposed to install any software on the server. So, any default tools (like Regmon/Filemon) that comes with Win 2003 would be great. But, if there is no tools that can help, I can get persmissions to install s/w.
tldr; need to keep an eye on a process using default windows tools. What is the best way??
Any help/pointers is greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
As a first regmon and filemon does not comes with any windows version neither desktop nor server edition.
It is product of sysinternals (M. Rusenovich) currently are covered by MS, but not bundled in any version of OS.
Standard tools are called performance counters and are available through manage computer context menu on "My Computer" icon, or just by running perfmon.exe or perfmon.msc
You can setup exact what you want to track.
I inherited a huge code base which was written to work on Windows XP. Now we would like to migrate to Windows 7. I do not know what is the proper way to go about this. What is the proper approach to do the above task? I did some googling on differences between XP and Windows 7 but I do not get any proper links which describe how the internals of 7 differ from XP. Any links will be appreciated.
Usually how do S/W developers migrate their code/apps written for one version of OS say Vista to Windows 7?
I sell an autoupdate solution (AutoUpdate+, minor plug) and so have lots of experience porting Windows apps to the latest releases, and yet still maintaining backwards compatibility. Porting from Windows XP to Windows 7 can be a big challenge (there should be almost no difference in a move from Windows Vista to Window 7).
Window XP doesn't care where your application exists, and hence programmers would dump both their application and support logic (log files, config files, user profiles etc.) into the same location under "C:\Program Files\". Take this application to Windows 7 and you'll start finding some unusual behaviors. For starters, you will notice that files seem to 'disappear'. Instead of a log file being modified under the common Program Files location, you may end up with multiple, and separate, copies for each user under "Compatibility / Program Files". Windows Vista/7 introduced file system virtualization, and will now create separate user instances of files to ensure to ensure that each user has their own secure copy.
Another problem you will encounter on Windows Vista, and to a lesser extent on Windows 7, is User Account Control (UAC) prompts. It's similar to the issue above, in that new security restrictions will now cause Windows Vista/7 to prompt the user for approval to proceed. The most noticeable area where this occurs is when you are tampering with executable files in sensitive directories, installing applications and drivers, and sometimes when trying to self-update an app (the abovementioned app actually works around these prompts with some smart logic).
So in short, security changes are the biggest difference between Windows XP and Windows Vista/7. Your best start is to separate application logic (binaries) from supporting logic, by putting the latter into user specific directories. Some apps may never be fixable and can be forced instead to work in Compatibility Mode or to launch always under the Admin account context --- poor workarounds, but may be suitable in your company.
Simon # http://AutoUpdatePlus.com
There are three parts to the migration. First, make it just plain work. This means fixing up hardcoded file paths (there's no more Documents and Settings), changing some of your save locations so you don't need to be elevated to work properly and don't rely on virtualization, changing some of your registry key locations for the same reason, and coping with high-DPI which might now be applied automatically based on screen size rather than as a user's choice.
Second, make it look and work like a Windows 7 application. Is your jumplist usable? Your thumbnail? You get some things for free, do you like what you get or would you like to take control? Are there obvious wins you could use like thumbnail buttons, jumplist tasks, taskbar overlays, etc. Don't surprise your users and don't disappoint your users. (Example of disappointment: VS 2008 and the crummy jumplists it offered. They had the excuse of being released before Windows 7 - you don't.)
Third, take advantage of Windows 7 to be greater than you otherwise would. Stop polling for network joins, file creation, hardware being plugged in, going on and off AC power etc and learn how to get notified when those things happen. Add touch support beyond what you get for free. Talk to a sensor or GPS for the first time, since Windows 7 makes it simpler than it ever was. That sort of thing.
1 is not optional. 2 is really not optional either, a year after Windows 7 is released. 3 will differentiate you and I recommend, once you get past 1 and 2, you look into it.
Basically Windows7 is a 4bit OS and so necessarily runs on a 64bit processor environment. XP has 32bit as well as 4 bit flavours. If your application is for the 32bit version of XP, in that case, the major migration means making the application run on 4bit OS effectively.
The basic steps can be something like this:
Make it compatible to 64bit win7. So you may just compile the code off a win7 machine (on 64bit). If the compilation works fine, you might be able to run the app successfully.
The first step just allows to move ahead. But your application might not be effective. In that case, you might have to review the code for any specific implementation coupled on 32bit os and upgrade them to take advantage of 64bit OS.
The major advantages on 64bit OS is higher address-ability (so access more RAM) and also cache etc.
I did some googling on differences between XP and Windows 7 but I do not get any proper links which describe how the internals of 7 differ from XP. Any links will be appreciated.
API diff report between XP and Vista: https://abi-laboratory.pro/compatibility/Windows_5.0_to_Windows_6.0/x86_64/abi_compat_report.html
API diff report between Vista and 7: https://abi-laboratory.pro/compatibility/Windows_6.0_to_Windows_7.0/x86_64/abi_compat_report.html
The reports are generated by the abi-compliance-checker tool.
I'm moved from Windows to Ubuntu Linux, and now I want to set up development environment here. The problem is that I need
C/C++ IDE comparable to Visual Studio
Way to generate Windows PE binaries
Way do debug Windows PE binaries
At first time I tried Code::Blocks. Here I find guide to setting it up for cross-development so I managed to get "Hello World" compiled and running under Wine. Moreover, debugging worked too.
But then I found that Eclipse + CDT plugin is far more advanced IDE. I spent some time and finally get project compiled and linked.
Now I'm trying to get MinGW Insight version of GDB working within Eclipse CDT. Simple way to use debugger described in Code::Blocks guide won't work anymore. I continue to receive "Error creating session" messages.
So my question is, how I can use MinGW GDB under Wine as debugger back-end in Eclipse?
Or, what is best IDE for Linux->Windows cross-development?
I'm wondering that nobody answered this yet.
QtCreator. Don't be confused by its name, QtCreator works is pretty well with any kind of C++ code, you don't need to code in Qt to use it. It is just like FOSS Visual Studio: it does even have a syntax checking "on fly".
MinGW. Here's not much to say, it is just creates Win PE executables, and it works. It is available in repositories. Note, that a Win GUI applications have special bit in it's PE header set; so, in order to create GUI application with MinGW you have to pass an option -mwindows to set this bit.
This is a problem. Really: I'm just trying to debug a windows application, and didn't find yet a way to do it. I will shortly recall here what I tried so far, just in order for you to not step on my rakes:
winedbg. Probably it should work, but for me it didn't. When I set a breakpoint, i.e. like this br 43, it says Unable to add breakpoint (unknown address 7b860807).
winedbg. Yeah, again, but this time we will use it like this winedbg --gbd to make it proxying a commands to gdb. Probably this is the only way to debug an application, but it have a drawbacks: first, in order to restart an application you have to exit debugger; if you enter run it says that the remote target doesn't support this. Second, I have no even idea how to debug a multithreaded application; when I first started this, I stumbled upon an error Non-stop mode requested, but remote does not support non-stop, and after setting a breakpoint and starting it says:
Cannot insert breakpoint 1. and Cannot access memory at address 0x401654. So, in order to make this work I was needed to rename my .gdbinit file (i.e. non-stop mode is set there).
gdb.exe. I was sure that I found a way: simple usage of a windows version of gdb should solve problems; more over, for me, as I am a Emacs guy, it would be absolutely the same as debugging with native gdb. But alas, the windows gdb just didn't work. If I run it, and enter any command, it simply does nothing. It only reacts on Ctrl-c and Ctrl-z commands. Probably I will try on my spare time to ask a question about it on mailing list. Well, now we can't use it...
So what we have do with debug? Most probably seek another Windows debugger that works under WINE. If I correctly recall, OllyDbg worked, but I don't know at the moment how to make it show a source code.
you can try NetBeans.It's a good free, open source
and Cross Platform Support IDE.
Run Windows in a VM?
Seriously, your question is good, but it's probably not worth spending the time to figure out the answer (especially: since nobody seems to have a ready answer). If you have real work to do, native Windows or Windows in a VM is the answer.