VLOOKUP function not returning correct value, Index Match also incorrect. User Error? - excel

Working in Excel 2019. In the same realm as one of my previous questions, I'm working with a database that I'm trying to look through via functions to get my values. The VLOOKUP tool worked well for going through the time-table to find the value I need, but it's not working when I'm trying to find RPM as the look-up value. Here's the gist of the data.
We have Time(sec, A:A in "PPT_156Data" sheet), RPM (B:B in same sheet), and Pressure (Bar, C:C in same sheet).
From the graph, you can see that we ramp to 8000RPM over the course of around 60 seconds, and then ramp down to 0RPM over the next 30. Test times WILL vary and rates WILL vary from pump-to-pump, as each one will give different data values based on the pump. That's why, say, 1000RPM will not be in the same spot every time.
I'm trying to find the RPM at 1000 intervals up to 8000 and report out the pressure at said intervals.
Here's what I tried so far, with imagery as well.
'Disregard if you see W25 for S25, I had just been trying multiple things
First, I attempted the same VLOOKUP code I had done for the time-table prior
=VLOOKUP(S25,PPT156_Data!B:C,2,TRUE) 'S25 being lookup value
This worked fine, UP UNTIL it hit a particular spot. For some reason, as soon as it tries to find an approximate match for 6663RPM, it faults out and gives incorrect data. From then on, all the way to 8000RPM, it will ONLY give the result of 0.139BAR. I have no clue why. Trying to find that value in the return array gives multiple results, but it's not like it's the ONLY value left.
So, I tried to do a wildcard for it with the following code
=VLOOKUP("*"&S25&"*",PPT156_Data!B:C,2,FALSE) 'Attempted both False and True states
Gave N/A for both of the values. Not sure if I'm entering in the wildcard incorrectly here. The decimal places that the RPM can go to ranges between 2-5 (hundredths to hundred-thousandths, IE 7000.00750)
I then thought maybe an Index Match would work.
=INDEX(PPT156_Data!B:C,MATCH(S25,PPT156_Data!B:B,-1),2)
Tried that in wildcard format too, returned nothing. So, I decided to see if I could even match a value for RPM with the following attempts
=MATCH(S25,PPT_Data156!B:B,-1)
This gave nothing. HOWEVER, when setting the match specification to 1, it gives the very last row in the data set. So, I decided to find a value in column B, and attempt to match with it exactly.
=MATCH(7000.07,PPT_Data156!B:B,0)
This also returned nothing. Even though, you can see in my images, that the value is ABSOLUTELY there. SIGFIG shows it's 7000.1 but trust me, it's 7000.07. So that sort of threw me for a loop. Figuring maybe there was a different error and grasping at straws, tried another Index Match formula, this time subtracting the lookup value in an attempt to get it extremely close and absolute value/min it
=INDEX(PPT156_Data!C:C,MATCH(MIN(ABS(PPT156_Data!B:B-S25)),ABS(PPT156_Data!B:B-S25),1))
I'm at a loss. I'm not sure if because the rate ramps up and down, thus not being in ascending order, is causing a problem? I can't change that. I am thinking I may need to create a macro for this in some way? Maybe a helper table? But I can't even FIND the match value to create a helper table. Any help at all would be VERY appreciative.
Thank you for your time looking at my post.

I am presuming that you want the first pressure reading when the RPM hits above each 1000 interval. I got to a solution but feels a bit complex.
=index(C:C,1/max(iferror(1/(row(B:B)*(B:B>E12)),Null)))
Breaking this down, we create a boolean array where the RPM hits above the interval
=B:B>E12
and then we multiple this by the array of the rows of column B
row(B:B)*(B:B>E12)
which gives us an array of the row numbers when the RPM is above E12 but also zero for all the ones that do not.
=iferror(1/(row(B:B)*(B:B>E12)),Null)
We then force an error with the zeros by dividing and replace with null. We get the max since we inverse the row numbers and then inverse again to get the row number back.
=index(C:C,1/max(iferror(1/(row(B:B)*(B:B>E12)),Null)))
[Excel working screenshot][1]
[1]: https://i.stack.imgur.com/uhcaX.png

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I am trying to use the Match function to return the row of an indicated table that a certain time value is on. The time is in mm:ss format on the table, so I want users to input the desired time to match as text for their simplicity (with data validation to ensure its correct format), and then use the Time function within the Match function to convert the input to match the format of the table for comparison. However, when using the Time function, the Match function returns the incorrect row, one row number short of what it should be to be precise. I attempted to do some debugging (shown below) and looked into the documentation of both the Time and Match functions, but can't figure out why this would happen. Is there something about the Time function I'm missing?
Here is a breakdown of what I'm using and what I've done to debug and figure out it's the Time function that's causing me issues. Column R has the functions I've been using and their results, and Column S has direct links to the table to show what the output should be. Column T shows that the time values are exactly the same but that using them yields different results in the Match function. Column U is the user input time in text format, and columns V through X are just used to ensure we get to the correct column in the lookup table.
(https://i.stack.imgur.com/ageCW.png)
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(https://i.stack.imgur.com/FgfGG.png)
Well, this is curious. This is NOT a proper answer, but I needed to enter this as an answer rather than a comment because I needed the space and the markup of a table. I created my own table and ran my own experiment.
I entered the time value of 00:01:23 three different ways:
I typed "00:01:23" into a cell manually.
I entered =TIME(0,1,23) in a cell
I typed "00:01:15" and "00:01:16" into two consecutive cells, and then dragged it down and let Excel autofill.
Here's the results I got:
How Entered
Value
Typed "00:01:23" in Excel
0.0009606481481481480000
=TIME(0,1,23)
0.0009606481481481480000
Fill
0.0009606481481481490000
I emphasized the digit that turned out unexpectedly different.
I then did a MATCH(x,x,1) down this column for each value and it resulted in exactly the behavior you observed. The first two matched 1:22, as they should, because they were ever so slightly less than the table value. The self-referencing MATCH() of the 1:23 cell correctly matched on 1:23.
What is puzzling to me is that my test revealed to me that the value in the lookup table was a tiny bit off, by (0.0000000000000000010000), where your test presented the exact same number, concealing the difference. So in my test, the MATCH() behaved correctly for the data given, even if the data was wrong.
Excel is limited to 15 significant digits, and I have no way of knowing what rounding shenanigans Excel goes through to drop the remaining digits.
My thought goes to wondering how the time values in your lookup table were first created to begin with. Like, were they initially entered in a google sheet and then opened in excel? Is the 15 significant digit rounding handled identically among excel versions and OSes?

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Run across a very strange issue that I am curious about. In Excel, I was doing a VLOOKUP to match contact names with a unique ID found in another database. Formula for example: =VLOOKUP(B2,Sheet2!A:B,2,TRUE), very basic. I used approx. match but, of course, some instances still returned #N/A. However, I did double checks with a quick control-F and found a number of instances returning NA when there was in fact a (exact) match. I was troubleshooting and trying a number of things but nothing was working. Many checks confirmed the cells were equal, there was nothing tricky like hidden characters, very peculiar. Anyway, on a whim I changed from approximate match to exact match and lo and behold it worked! The VLOOKUP was returning the correct value.
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Imagine a key column with the values [2,3,10,4] in the given order. When the key '4' should be looked-up approximately, the function will start comparing the available keys in the column, beginning with '2'. After '3' was passed, '10' follows, which is already greater than the searched '4'. Consequently, the function stops searching and returns the target value of the previous key-row ('3') as an "approximation".
Now, given another example [10,2,3,4]. Here, approx. VLOOKUP will stop searching right after the first key comparison as '10' is greater than the searched '4'. Since no previous key-row is available, the returned value will be #N/A. However, an exact VLOOKUP would have found the matching key as it does not stop searching.
Besides key order, it is recommended to have all the key-values in the same format.
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Has anybody encountered strange behavior of LOOKUP()?

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Situation is extremely simplified for debugging the problem.
I use Excel 2007 in an cooperate environment
In a calculation made on a two-week basis, I have to fill in numbers for the two-week interval that are valid a whole month. For example first two weeks of December I have to use value 12, second two weeks again, than first to weeks of January I have to use 1, second two weeks again.
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(A2): =LOOKUP(A1;$A$9:$H$9;$A$10:$H$10)
...
(P2): =LOOKUP(P1;$A$9:$H$9;$A$10:$H$10)
As you can see in the screenshot, the function goes havoc and retrieves false values.
For testing, I reproduced the situation with the international phonetic alphabet instead of month names. Therefore:
(A5): =LOOKUP(A4;$A$12:$H$12;$A$13:$H$13)
...
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I already tested vertical vectors instead of horizontals in the red area. They lead to the same situation.
NOTE:
I finally solved the original problem by using HLOOKUP() and VLOOKUP(). There I found another clue. Both show the same behaviour if [not_exact_match] is committed or set to true but work fine, if exact_match is enforced. So, how can Februar be an approximate match to Dezember?
See http://office.microsoft.com/en-gb/excel-help/lookup-function-HP010342671.aspx
For the LOOKUP function to work correctly, the data being looked up must be sorted in ascending order.
This is not the case with the texts "Dezember", "Januar", "Februar", ...
If you would use real dates 01.12.2013, 01.01.2014, 01.02.2014, ... and format them as "MMMM", then it should work. Of course the lookup_value also has to be in that form.
Same problem with VLOOKUP and not exact match. http://office.microsoft.com/en-gb/excel-help/vlookup-function-HP010343011.aspx
If range_lookup is either TRUE or is omitted, the values in the first column of table_array must be placed in ascending sort order; otherwise, VLOOKUP might not return the correct value.

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