Azure Vnet Private IP Ranges - azure

I've not from a networking background. I'm data platform solution architecture and data/ai engineer. Since distributed data processing and scale out using containers has come into my world I've decided to bite the bullet and learn IP fundamentals so I can build clusters.
I've been doing lots of training but have a simple and relatively dumb question but finding simple answers to simple questions seems quite hard on the topic networking!
I have 2 Azure VNets for example in my subscription on the same domain does it matter if a subnet on 1 vnet overlaps a subnet on other vnet? Presumably that would only be a problem when they're peered together. Does the vnet ring fence it's private ip ranges?

"I have 2 Azure VNets for example in my subscription on the same domain does it matter if a subnet on 1 vnet overlaps a subnet on other vnet? "*Presumably that would only be a problem when they're peered together."
To be exact the answer is "NO". It doesn't really matter as long as the particular subnet doesn't require to communicate with another subnet in a different VNET. If you have a plan to configure VNET peering at some point then there are certain best practices that you should have followed to avoid conflicts. However, following are the best practices to implement an enterprise network in Azure.
Start from scratch by documenting your subnets along with subnet mask in each VNET.
There shouldn't be overlapping IP address ranges if your network design contains VNET peering, custom routing, Azure firewall, Azure load balancer etc.
There shouldn't be overlapping IP address ranges if you are planning to implement Site to Site VPN between your azure tenant and on-premises network.
"Does the vnet ring fence it's private ip ranges?"
Yes, subenets within a VNET can communicate with each other without any custom routes with the help of default systems routes.
But subnets in VNET-A cannot communicate with subnets in VNET-B if there's no VNET peering configured between VNET-A and VNET-B.
Hope this answer cleared out the doubts.

"I have 2 Azure VNets for example in my subscription on the same domain does it matter if a subnet on 1 vnet overlaps a subnet on other vnet? "*Presumably that would only be a problem when they're peered together."
Correct. Your subnet address space can overlap on different networks (VNETS). But if you ever need them to talk to each other with out some pretty complex routing changes or redeploying your resources then creating unique address space per subnet is recommend - deploy unique address space.
Struggling to understand why you require the same address space in different VNETs , there is plenty of address space available to ensure they do not overlap even if using ARM templates i.e use variables to deploy.
"Does the vnet ring fence it's private ip ranges?"
Essentially yes, RFC 1918 “Address Allocation for Private Internets" defines that private address space does not route out of a private network. I am no expert to be fair, but really interesting link here
https://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/RFC-1918
RFC 1918
Request for Comment 1918 (RFC 1918), “Address Allocation for Private Internets,”is the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) memorandum on methods of assigning of private IP addresses on TCP/IP networks.
Along with NAT (network address tunneling), RFC 1918 facilitates expansion of the usable number of IP addresses available under IPV4, as a stopgap solution to prevent the exhaustion of public IPs available before the adoption of IPV6. It’s not necessary to register private IPs with a Regional Internet Registry (RIR), which simplifies setting up private networks.
RFC 1918 was used to create the standards by which networking equipment assigns IP addresses in a private network. A private network can use a single public IP address. The RFC reserves the following ranges of IP addresses that cannot be routed on the Internet:
10.0.0.0 - 10.255.255.255 (10/8 prefix)
172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255 (172.16/12 prefix)
192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255 (192.168/16 prefix)
IP addresses within these ranges can be assigned within a private network; each address will be unique on that network but not outside of it. Private IP addresses can't be communicated with directly by external computers because they are not globally unique and, as such, not addressable on the public Internet.
Computers on the inside of the network can communicate with the Internet through NAT. NAT translates an IP address used within one network to a different IP address known within another network. Typically, a company maps its local inside network addresses to one or more global outside IP addresses and unmaps the global IP addresses on incoming packets back into local IP addresses.

no, its doesn't. But you won't be able to peer\vpn them together. So they are effectively isolated from each other forever (or at least until you fix that).

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One Azure vNET peering with multiple vnets that are using the same address space

I am a beginner with azure vnet peering, so please indulge me if this is such an obvious question.
I would like to vnet peer one vnet to multiple vnets. All those vnets however uses the same address space. Let me explain more with examples.
Let's say vnet_source is the one that will peer with some existing vnets.
vnet_source > 192.168.0.0/16 for example
vnet1> 10.0.0.0/16
vnet2> 10.0.0.0/16
vnet3> 10.0.0.0/16
Would this be possible? For one vnet (vnet_source) to peer with other vnets that are using the same address space, in this case (vnet 1,2, and 3)?
and if so is there a routing trick that can identify, that in this case 10.0.1.81 for example ip address belongs to vnet1 and not.
Any help would be highly appreciated!
Thank you so much.
I am still in the planning phase, so have not tested yet.
Unfortunately it is not possible to implement vnet peering between vnets with same address space.
There are likely to be address conflicts (same IP address used in both locations) and
Azure Route tables won't be able to decide where to send the traffic.(VM with IP 10.0.0.10 from vnet1, vnet2 or vnet3?)
https://community.cisco.com/t5/other-collaboration-subjects/the-best-way-to-connect-2-lan-s-with-the-same-ip-addresses/td-p/2724403
It is important to use unique IP address spaces for each virtual network used in Azure so that routing can occur between virtual networks.
If virtual networks have the same IP address space it would not be possible to route traffic between resources from different vnets.
https://superuser.com/questions/1661852/can-two-networks-connected-to-a-router-both-have-a-host-with-the-same-ip-address
L2 forwarding can solve this problem but Azure does not support it for peering.
https://blog.ipspace.net/2019/11/stretched-layer-2-subnets-in-azure.html

Azure Vnet Networking Design: Hyperscale and more than 10.0.0.0/8 hosts with Public CIDRs

I hope this belongs here. It's a cloud infra question.
I'm a designing a hyper-scale network setup in Azure where I am testing the limits of what can be done in Azure. It's not by any standards a typical use-case.
So my problem is the following. What happens if you need more than a 10.0.0.0/8 for your entire setup. Some things I am aware before asking this question.
I know this means 16777214 hosts but I am aiming for N private hosts and in turn private N IPs to be available to the system.
I'm not planning on dumping everything on a Vnet but since in Azure you cannot have overlapping cidrs if you plan to peer them. So essentially I've only got the 10.0.0.0/8 as total even if double VLSM it to proper segregate domains. Further explanation: I'm planning on using 10.0.0.0/21 Vnets with varied VLSM subnets depending on the needs.
I do want a central management layer that has access to all networks (that might be the issue). So no overlapping cidrs again if I need to peer everything together.
I come from an AWS background where even if it is hard you can peer overlapping CIDRs through the Transit Gateway with CIDR->NAT and some clever logic. No such luck in Azure from my current research (Please correct me if I'm wrong)
So that led me to ask myself. Azure Vnet (as well as well as AWS) support almost any cidr address including public and it will not route to the VNET so it's not real public ip address. What are the implications of using a public cidr for my Vnets?
The first thing I can think is that those subnets shouldn't be able to reach the actual public ip address range that they were assigned cause local network route tables take precedence. So they might only be useful for isolated from the internet vnets?
And my question is in tldr;
Should you use public ip cidr ranges for your vnet pool in Azure? Yes? No? When? I'd love to hear opinions.
Author's Comment: We still can't get rid of ipv4 problems in 2022 :joy:

Azure NSG Private IP Congfiguration (WhiteList)Vnet to Vnet communication

I have situation where I want to open my Vnet(lets say Vnet1) for other Vnets (which has private IP range defined ) , I am thinking to use NSG rules and allow private IP ranges of other Vnets (lets say Vnet2 , Vnet3) to this entry point Subnet(in Vnet1) which host my API gateway .
I have two questions :
I assume it should be feasible using private IP addresses and allowing them using NSG (of Vnet 1/Subnet 1) ? I am not looking for peering/s2s vpn of Vnet as both belongs to separate teams and Vnet2/Vnet3 just wanted to access APis of Vnet1 using Api gateway.
Is there any security issues which we foresee , I assume it safe to expose since these are private IPs and can not be accesses from internet .
Please let me know opinion on feasibility and security .
Thanks
Xslguy
To help others who might find the same scenario, just extract the useful information in the comment and write my answer.
An Azure VNet is a logical isolation of Azure cloud dedication to your subscription. VNet peering allows traffic between two VNets is routed through Microsoft's private network only. If the VNETs haven't peered, vnet1 will not connect to resources in vnet2 by using private IP but using the public IP of the resources in vnet2. In this case, we need to restrict the source public IP for the inbound rules in the NSG attached to the subnet. With VNet peering, you also could restrict the access from one subnet to another subnet by using source private IP for the inbound rules in the NSG attached to the subnet.
From Security rules:
If you specify an address for an Azure resource, specify the private
IP address assigned to the resource. Network security groups are
processed after Azure translates a public IP address to a private IP
address for inbound traffic, and before Azure translates a private IP
address to a public IP address for outbound traffic.

Queries related to utilization, distribution and pricing of IP addresses on Azure

I have queries related to utilization, distribution and pricing of IP addresses on Azure.
Taking an example, 10.0.0.0/27. It says, 10.0.0.0 - 10.0.0.31 (32 addresses).
After expanding I found as..
CIDR Range: 10.0.0.0/27
Netmask: 255.255.255.224
Wildcard Bits: 0.0.0.31
First IP: 10.0.0.0
Last IP: 10.0.0.31
Total Host: 32
I assigned 10.0.0.0/27 for both VNet and Subnet on Azure Portal.
After creating the virtual network, I see available address 27.
1) No virtual machine created yet, then why the available addresses are 27?
2) What is the IP range for 27 available addresses?
While creating Gateway Subnet, I see errors like...
The specified address space overlaps with subnet 'Subnet1' which has a range of '10.0.0.0/27'.
Your subnet is not contained within the address space for this virtual network: 10.0.0.0/27.
3) How to calculate and decide the available gateway subnet address space for a virtual network?
4) For using gateway subnet, is it mandatory or recommended to add another subnet before or after creating gateway subnet?
5) Why address space is required for creating a gateway subnet? Is gateway subnet not a fixed or static IP address for creating connection?
6) In case of virtual network, 10.0.0.0/27, is pricing done on the basis of utilized IP addresses only?
7) In case of virtual network, 10.0.0.0/27, if there are some un-utilized IP addresses, are they blocked to me or my subscription or un-utilized IP addresses can be used by someone else on his azure portal?
I sincerely request to clarify all seven queries.
Q1-Q3:
Read Azure VNet FAQ, Azure reserves 5 IP addresses within each subnet. These are x.x.x.0-x.x.x.3 and the last address of the subnet. So you have 27 available addresses for the address range 10.0.0.0/27. It's address range 10.0.0.4 - 10.0.0.30
Q4: It's not mandatory for creating Gateway subnet order, you only need to calculate the CIDR Range for each subnet including in your current virtual network address range.
Q5: If you need to configure a virtual network gateway. The gateway subnet contains the IP addresses that the virtual network gateway services use. All gateway subnets must be named GatewaySubnet to work properly. Read here. If you don't need a VPN gateway, you don't need to create Gateway subnet in this VNet.
Q6-Q7: Have a look at Azure VNet pricing and VPN gateway pricing.
Azure Virtual Network is free of charge. Every subscription is allowed
to create up to 50 virtual networks across all regions.
Public IP addresses, and reserved IP addresses used on services inside
a virtual network, are charged.
Network appliances such as VPN Gateway and Application Gateway that
are run inside a virtual network are also charged.
For the un-utilized IP addresses, It looks like unassigned private IP address in your on-premise network. They can continue to be assigned to the resources when you deployed some resources in the VNet or subnet.
For more details, you can read this blog: Understanding CIDR Notation when designing Azure Virtual Networks and Subnets
Azure reserves 5 IP addresses within each subnet. These are x.x.x.0-x.x.x.3 and the last address of the subnet.
x.x.x.0 and the last address of the subnet is reserved for protocol conformance.
x.x.x.1-x.x.x.3 is reserved in each subnet for Azure services.
Address space is the super set of subnets. So, your Address space needs to be bigger and should be able to accommodate the IPs which you are defining for the Subnets.
Basic Subnetting would help.
It is not recommended to deploy your workloads on Gateway subnet. So you need other subnets to deploy your workloads.
Gateways does have a Private IP address which it gets from the Gateway subnet. As I mentioned in Point 2, Address space is the super set of subnets.
Only Public IPs are charged. Private IP which you define in Azure VNET is not charged.
Since it is Private IP address, you can create another 10.0.0.0/27 VNET in the same region. VNET provides a isolation and the address which you define is isolated to that VNET.

Assign multiple private IPs to a VM in Azure

I have 2 Virtual Networks and each of them has a subnet. I want to assign 2 private IP's to a virtual machine. One private IP resides in 1st Virtual Network while second private IP is in 2nd Virtual Network.
I have tried attaching 2 NIC's to the VM, and attached the first private IP to first NIC and second private IP to second NIC.
When I deploy the ARM template it says that second NIC is referring to a subnet which is not in same Virtual Network?
How can I achieve this in Azure?
How can I achieve this in Azure ?
As far as I know, Azure does not support this.
For now, Azure just support multiple NICs on the same virtual network.
Q:Are there any limitations to this feature that customers must be aware
of?
A:Multiple NIC is supported on Azure VMs (IaaS, Standard SKUs) only;
and VMs must be in an Azure Virtual Network.
More information about multiple NICs, please refer to this link.
Select the existing NIC for the box you are trying to assign the second Private IP,
Select IP configuration on the right tab bar,
Click on +Add, write a name for your new IP address,
Select static Private IP address (it could stay as dynamic as well)
I think your best bet would be Azure VNET Peering, which can loosely be thought of as a VPN between the two VNETs via the Azure backbone. This way, all machines in one VNET can talk directly to all those in the second VNET. It assumes that there's no Address Space crossover between the to VNETs, but if that's the case you may always have struggled.
There's a good article here which explains it in more detail.
The best scenario to implement this through below steps.
Site 2 site between the 2 VNET thru VPN gateway.
Also you have to make the machines in Fail over cluster so as they form a cluster.

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