I'm trying to figure out the best architecture for a scalable BullMQ implementation. We have a number of different services that are going to be feeding jobs into queues. In some situations we may have multiple different services feeding jobs into the same queue.
Initially I had thought to contain all BullMQ implementation on a single instance and stand up a simple API with an endpoint that can receive jobs to be added to the queue. So for any service that wants to add a job to a queue, they just hit a specific endpoint and the job gets added to the queue.
I was wondering though whether an alternative approach could be to instantiate a BullMQ queue on the various services that want to add jobs to queues, and then just have the workers located on a separate service to pick up jobs from the queue when they are ready for execution? This 'worker box' can then horizontally scale up as required.
If this approach is possible, I have concerns about what the implications may be of having multiple services adding jobs to the same queue - can this cause issues or is BullMQ designed to handle such a situation?
I'm finding it difficult to find information about what standard 'best-practice' approaches are for BullMQ implementation. Any guidance greatly appreciated. Thanks.
I have been researching how to efficiently solve the following use case and I am struggling to find the best solution.
Basically I have a Node.js REST API which handles requests for users from a mobile application. We want some requests to launch background tasks outside of the req/res flow because they are CPU intensive or might just take a while to execute. We are trying to implement or use any existing frameworks which are able to handle different job queues in the following way (or at least compatible with the use case):
Every user has their own set job queues (there are different kind of jobs).
The jobs within one specific queue have to be executed sequentially and only one job at a time but everything else can be executed in parallel (it would be preferable if there are no queues hogging the workers or whatever is actually consuming the tasks so all queues get more or less the same priority).
Some queues might fill up with hundreds of tasks at a given time but most likely they will be empty a lot of the time.
Queues need to be persistent.
We currently have a solution with RabbitMQ with one queue for every kind of task which all the users share. The users dump tasks into the same queues which results in them filling up with tasks from a specific user for a long time and having the rest of users wait for those tasks to be done before their own start to be consumed. We have looked into priority queues but we don't think that's the way to go for our own use case.
The first somewhat logical solution we thought of is to create temporary queues whenever a user needs to run background jobs and have them be deleted when empty. Nevertheless we are not sure if having that many queues is scalable and we are also struggling with dynamically creating RabbitMQ queues, exchanges, etc (we have even read somewhere that it might be an anti-pattern?).
We have been doing some more research and maybe the way to go would be with other stuff such as Kafka or Redis based stuff like BullMQ or similar.
What would you recommend?
If you're on AWS, have you considered SQS? There is no limit on number of standard queues created, and in flight messages can reach up to 120k. This would seem to satisfy your requirements above.
While the mentioned SQS solution did prove to be very scalable our amount of polling we would need to do or use of SNS did not make the solution optimal. On the other hand implementing a self made solution via database polling was too much for our use case and we did not have the time or computational resources to consider a new database in our stack.
Luckily, we ended up finding that the Pro version of BullMQ does have a "Group" functionality which performs a round robin strategy for different tasks within a single queue. This ended up adjusting perfectly to our use case and is what we ended up using.
I'm using Azure WebJobs as part of a project at work. These are configured as continuously running jobs that monitor a number of different queues. As queue messages are received they cause various API commands to be run. The issue I have is that some of the API commands run quickly (ie. a few seconds) and some run slowly (several minutes), and I'm not sure how best to split the queue handlers between the WebJobs.
For example, I could put all of the slow API command handlers in one WebJob and all of the quick handlers in a different WebJob. My concern is that the "slow" WebJob process would always be busy whereas the "quick" WebJob process would be idling most of the time.
Another approach would be to mix quick and slow handlers in the same WebJob project. My concern with that would be the quicker handlers starving the slower ones of attention, or vice versa.
A third approach would be to have a separate WebJob for each individual message handler, but given the number of message types we have to deal with I'd rather not go down that route. It also seems like overkill to be honest.
I was wondering if anyone had encountered a similar scenario and could offer any insight into how Azure WebJobs choose which message to handle when they are monitoring multiple queues? Numerous internet searches have failed to turn-up any guidance or help in this area. To be clear, I'm not really after opinions as to which approach people think would be best; I'm looking for answers from people who have actually dealt with this kind of problem and can say with some degree of certainty which of the different approaches would be best given the way the Azure WebJobs API currently prioritizes queue message handling.
If you have multiple functions listening on different queues, the SDK will call them in parallel when messages are received simultaneously. You can not set which queue should be processed first.
Depending on you configuration, you will handle them parallel. If you think that some executions will stall others, you can split the handling in multiple webjobs and scale them seperately.
I am working on a system that has lots of tasks that are perfect for queueing and has some existing home made legacy solutions already in place that work to varying degrees, I am familiar with gearman and have read through the RabbitMQ tutorials and am keen to upgrade the current solutions to use one of these more robust existing solutions (leaning towards rabbitMQ atm because of the flexibility and scalability and the management plugin).
I am having trouble understanding how to address a problem that allows user A to queue up a large number of a jobs (lets say 5000) of type A which then blocks the processing of any newly added jobs of type A until user A's jobs are done. Id like to implement a solution that will fairly share the load, or even just round-robin between the queued users.
Does anyone have any suggestions or insights into how I might implement a solution to this ?
I thought routing_keys might help but if User A's jobs are queued before User B adds their jobs then they still wont be processed until User A's jobs have been consumed ?
I have also thought of creating a queue for each user & jobtype but I am unsure how to do this dynamically ?
Perhaps I need to implement some sort of control queue that sets up queues and dynamically adjusts the worker processes to consume the newly added user only queue, but would the worker collect the jobs from the queues in a round-robin type way ? And how would I decide when to remove the queues ?
thanks in advance for any help !
Ok no comments from anyone so in the end I figured out that in rabbitmq you can consume from multiple queues in a round robin type fashion. So I built a queue that informs consumer workers to consume from a queue and dynamically create a queue for each users tasks, that are periodically deleted when empty.
I'm running a Windows Azure web role which, on most days, receives very low traffic, but there are some (foreseeable) events which can lead to a high amount of background work which has to be done. The background work consists of many database calls (Azure SQL) and HTTP calls to external web services, so it is not really CPU-intensive, but it requires a lot of threads which are waiting for the database or the web service to answer. The background work is triggered by a normal HTTP request to the web role.
I see two options to orchestrate this, and I'm not sure which one is better.
Option 1, Threads: When the request for the background work comes in, the web role starts as many threads as necessary (or queues the individual work items to the thread pool). In this option, I would configure a larger instance during the heavy workload, because these threads could require a lot of memory.
Option 2, Self-Invoking: When the request for the background work comes in, the web role which receives it generates a HTTP request to itself for every item of background work. In this option, I could configure several web role instances, because the load balancer of Windows Azure balances the HTTP requests across the instances.
Option 1 is somewhat more straightforward, but it has the disadvantage that only one instance can process the background work. If I want more than one Azure instance to participate in the background work, I don't see any other option than sending HTTP requests from the role to itself, so that the load balancer can delegate some of the work to the other instances.
Maybe there are other options?
EDIT: Some more thoughts about option 2: When the request for the background work comes in, the instance that receives it would save the work to be done in some kind of queue (either Windows Azure Queues or some SQL table which works as a task queue). Then, it would generate a lot of HTTP requests to itself, so that the load balancer 'activates' all of the role instances. Each instance then dequeues a task from the queue and performs the task, then fetches the next task etc. until all tasks are done. It's like occasionally using the web role as a worker role.
I'm aware this approach has a smelly air (abusing web roles as worker roles, HTTP requests to the same web role), but I don't see the real disadvantages.
EDIT 2: I see that I should have elaborated a little bit more about the exact circumstances of the app:
The app needs to do some small tasks all the time. These tasks usually don't take more than 1-10 seconds, and they don't require a lot of CPU work. On normal days, we have only 50-100 tasks to be done, but on 'special days' (New Year is one of them), they could go into several 10'000 tasks which have to be done inside of a 1-2 hour window. The tasks are done in a web role, and we have a Cron Job which initiates the tasks every minute. So, every minute the web role receives a request to process new tasks, so it checks which tasks have to be processed, adds them to some sort of queue (currently it's an SQL table with an UPDATE with OUTPUT INSERTED, but we intend to switch to Azure Queues sometime). Currently, the same instance processes the tasks immediately after queueing them, but this won't scale, since the serial processing of several 10'000 tasks takes too long. That's the reason why we're looking for a mechanism to broadcast the event "tasks are available" from the initial instance to the others.
Have you considered using Queues for distribution of work? You can put the "tasks" which needs to be processed in queue and then distribute the work to many worker processes.
The problem I see with approach 1 is that I see this as a "Scale Up" pattern and not "Scale Out" pattern. By deploying many small VM instances instead of one large instance will give you more scalability + availability IMHO. Furthermore you mentioned that your jobs are not CPU intensive. If you consider X-Small instance, for the cost of 1 Small instance ($0.12 / hour), you can deploy 6 X-Small instances ($0.02 / hour) and likewise for the cost of 1 Large instance ($0.48) you could deploy 24 X-Small instances.
Furthermore it's easy to scale in case of a "Scale Out" pattern as you just add or remove instances. In case of "Scale Up" (or "Scale Down") pattern since you're changing the VM Size, you would end up redeploying the package.
Sorry, if I went a bit tangential :) Hope this helps.
I agree with Gaurav and others to consider one of the Azure Queue options. This is really a convenient pattern for cleanly separating concerns while also smoothing out the load.
This basic Queue-Centric Workflow (QCW) pattern has the work request placed on a queue in the handling of the Web Role's HTTP request (the mechanism that triggers the work, apparently done via a cron job that invokes wget). Then the IIS web server in the Web Role goes on doing what it does best: handling HTTP requests. It does not require any support from a load balancer.
The Web Role needs to accept requests as fast as they come (then enqueues a message for each), but the dequeue part is a pull so the load can easily be tuned for available capacity (or capacity tuned for the load! this is the cloud!). You can choose to handle these one at a time, two at a time, or N at a time: whatever your testing (sizing exercise) tells you is the right fit for the size VM you deploy.
As you probably also are aware, the RoleEntryPoint::Run method on the Web Role can also be implemented to do work continually. The default implementation on the Web Role essentially just sleeps forever, but you could implement an infinite loop to query the queue to remove work and process it (and don't forget to Sleep whenever no messages are available from the queue! failure to do so will cause a money leak and may get you throttled). As Gaurav mentions, there are some other considerations in robustly implementing this QCW pattern (what happens if my node fails, or if there's a bad ("poison") message, bug in my code, etc.), but your use case does not seem overly concerned with this since the next kick from the cron job apparently would account for any (rare, but possible) failures in the infrastructure and perhaps assumes no fatal bugs (so you can't get stuck with poison messages), etc.
Decoupling placing items on the queue from processing items from the queue is really a logical design point. By this I mean you could change this at any time and move the processing side (the code pulling from the queue) to another application tier (a service tier) rather easily without breaking any part of the essential design. This gives a lot of flexibility. You could even run everything on a single Web Role node (or two if you need the SLA - not sure you do based on some of your comments) most of the time (two-tier), then go three-tier as needed by adding a bunch of processing VMs, such as for the New Year.
The number of processing nodes could also be adjusted dynamically based on signals from the environment - for example, if the queue length is growing or above some threshold, add more processing nodes. This is the cloud and this machinery can be fully automated.
Now getting more speculative since I don't really know much about your app...
By using the Run method mentioned earlier, you might be able to eliminate the cron job as well and do that work in that infinite loop; this depends on complexity of cron scheduling of course. Or you could also possibly even eliminate the entire Web tier (the Web Role) by having your cron job place work request items directly on the queue (perhaps using one of the SDKs). You still need code to process the requests, which could of course still be your Web Role, but at that point could just as easily use a Worker Role.
[Adding as a separate answer to avoid SO telling me to switch to chat mode + bypass comments length limitation] & thinking out loud :)
I see your point. Basically through HTTP request, you're kind of broadcasting the availability of a new task to be processed to other instances.
So if I understand correctly, when an instance receives request for the task to be processed, it pushes that request in some kind of queue (like you mentioned it could either be Windows Azure Queues [personally I would actually prefer that] or SQL Azure database [Not prefer that because you would have to implement your own message locking algorithm]) and then broadcast a message to all instances that some work needs to be done. Remaining instances (or may be the instance which is broadcasting it) can then see if they're free to process that task. One instance depending on its availability can then fetch the task from the queue and start processing that task.
Assuming you used Windows Azure Queues, when an instance fetched the message, it becomes unavailable to other instances immediately for some amount of time (visibility timeout period of Azure queues) thus avoiding duplicate processing of the task. If the task is processed successfully, the instance working on that task can delete the message.
If for some reason, the task is not processed, it will automatically reappear in the queue after visibility timeout period has expired. This however leads to another problem. Since your instances look for tasks based on a trigger (generating HTTP request) rather than polling, how will you ensure that all tasks get done? Assuming you get to process just one task and one task only and it fails since you didn't get a request to process the 2nd task, the 1st task will never get processed again. Obviously it won't happen in practical situation but something you might want to think about.
Does this make sense?
i would definitely go for a scale out solution: less complex, more manageable and better in pricing. Plus you have a lesser risk on downtime in case of deployment failure (of course the mechanism of fault and upgrade domains should cover that, but nevertheless). so for that matter i completely back Gaurav on this one!