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Does anybody have a list of programming languages as a table (sql) or as CSV?
I'm currently writing a chess software which should allow programmers to write their own chess software and play chess games against other chess software / players. They should have the possibility to provide information about their software, such as the programming language they used. I would like to make some statistics of the most used programming languages, so I can't allow them to write the used languages as plain text as the spellings might be different (e.g. C++, c++, CPP).
edit: I want a structured list where I can easily extract the Name of the programming language. Of course, I can manually type the wikipedia-list or write a RegEx to do so. But I thought this might be available like the list of timezones.

Three people so far have given you wikipedia's link. However, this is something not even wikipedia can adequately keep up with.
If you can, it might be better to just keep your own list. Provide it to the users to pick from, but allow them the option to add in a language that isn't on the list already. That way you don't clutter up your list of languages with hundreds of esoteric unused languages (that will still be incomplete 6 months from now).

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Deserve dynamic typed languages all the criticism? [closed]

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I have read a few articles on Internet about programming language choice in the enterprise. Recently many dynamic typed languages have been popular, i.e. Ruby, Python, PHP and Erlang. But many enterprises still stay with static typed languages like C, C++, C# and Java.
And yes, one of the benefits of static typed languages is that programming errors are catched earlier, at compile time, rather than at run time. But there are also advantages with dynamic typed languages. (more at Wikipedia)
The main reason why enterprises don't start to use languages like Erlang, Ruby and Python, seem to be the fact that they are dynamic typed. That also seem to be the main reason why people on StackOverflow decide against Erlang. See Why did you decide "against" Erlang.
However, there seem to be a strong criticism against dynamic typing in the enterprises, but I don't really get it why it is that strong.
Really, why is there so much cristicism against dynamic typing in the enterprises? Does it really affect the cost of projects that much, or what? But maybe I'm wrong.
The word "enterprise" doesn't really mean anything to me, so I'm just going to assume you're talking about large corporations.
Dynamic typing is just that: dynamic. There is no way to effectively statically analyze your program with a dynamically-typed language. Static typing allows developers to catch mistakes before ever compiling or running their code, something that is very important in the corporate world. It makes debugging much less of a pain and thus increases overall productivity (or that's what they argue, anyway). Static typing is also very important in a team setting because it allows your IDE to tell you how to use a method that you've never seen. These kinds of "hints" are very difficult, if not impossible, to achieve with dynamically-typed languages.
The other big thing is that dynamic languages are simply not as mature as static languages. Languages like C++, Java, and C# have been in use in the corporate world for years and years and years, whereas dynamically typed languages are just recently coming into play. There is a lot more code written in Java than in Python, and a lot more support for the former as well.
Note that I'm not arguing for either side. I personally prefer dynamically-typed languages because they allow me to write the code much more quickly and spend less time thinking about the problem, but I can see the appeal of languages like C# in a huge corporate environment.
It's probably more about what people are familiar with than anything else. From a manager's point of view, he/she needs a good reason to use a technology that:
May have never been used by the company on a project,
No one on the team has any experience with,
Does not (appear to) have the backing of a solid "Enterprise" company such as Microsoft, IBM, etc
These factors are especially important if the project needs to be maintained for many years down the road.
I am not defending this point of view, just pointing out that it exists and may be a source of this criticism.

should a student be diversifying or mastering programming languages? [closed]

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As the question states, is it better if a student diversifies or explores when learning programming languages or should they focus only on 2-3 languages and really get to know them well?
Example of what I mean by diversifying:
Functional -> Scheme
Procedural -> C
Object Oriented -> Java
Dynamic or scripting -> Python
Other -> C++
I have a few breaks in between semesters sometimes (up to 3 months) and I'm thinking of either learning a new language or "master" those that I know right now. Which would benefit me in the future? I know some(about 3 months of self studying each) Java, C, and C++ already . If I'm not mistaken, where I live, the industry is heavy on Java, C++, and C#.
Mastery takes ten years. But if you were my student, I would advise you to develop a good working knowledge of four kinds of languages:
Functional
Object-oriented
Machine-level
Scripting
These categories are pretty loose, but if you have a good working knowledge of all four, you score well on diversity.
If you want to aim for mastery, study C as your machine-level language and Lua as your scripting language. Lua is definitely small enough to be mastered, and C is not too bad if you avoid odd corners like the true meanings of const and volatile. I don't know if a functional or object-oriented language that I would say is susceptible of mastery.
Summary: build carefully targeted diversity and allow mastery to come with time.
Do both. Master at least one language (probably Java or C# since those are most common in industry) and learn others languages for what they can teach you so that you can bring back to those you are forced to work with.
You can't master a language per se, you can master programming. In the end, it will rarely matter if you have to learn a new language, as you have all the basic knowledge from other projects, you just have to get used to the specific stuff of the new language.
I believe that a good programmer doesn't know every thing but he can learn every thing.
when you master a language and master "the programming" it won't take more than a week to learn another language.
but it is a good idea to take a look to new languages and be able to read and anderstand codes in many languages.
It is hard to master a language unless you are actually using it for real, this means that during your holidays you would have to write real projects - not many people can achieve that (finishing a real project in a short amount of time, while on a break from learning).
I would advise to diversify first. You will find that once you know a few different languages then any new lenguage becomes a lot easier to learn. Different types of languages also introduce you to new concepts, and may well help you decide what type of programming you really want to do. Once you have decided what you like, then work on mastering it.
It depends on where and what your intentions are (for me at least).
A student in varsity is somewhat bound to the curriculum and the course will surely lead them and bind them to the predefined learning path.
For someone in my situation (Self taught and takes Vendor certifications), the goal is employment and income and thus learning a language with the goal of finding employment is (or was) my highest priority.
It is not common to work as as a developer on a full 3 tier systems as roles are usually fragmented into at least 2 ends (front and back) so I would focus on on what you're good at out of these. (If you're an artist and graphical guy/gal focus on front end and if you're mathematical and a problem solver, focus on back end and possibly scripting).
I have thoroughly enjoyed learning Java (even with an orange sized brain tumor lurking in my brain) and found it a good enough language to take you to other languages as it has some commonalities to general programming like: functions (methods), can be written procedural (like hello world app), has standard variable declarations, has logical operators and conditional operators found in many other languages.

As an EE/CE, what languages/concepts should I become more familiar with before graduating? [closed]

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I am currently entering my senior year as a dual major in Electrical Engineering and Computer Engineering, and have touched on a wide variety of different languages: C, C++, C#/XAML, Java, bash, python, VHDL, assembly, etc. I was wondering what you think would be a good language/few languages to become more proficient in, or to explore for a first time. Also, what level of programming you prefer (hardware, local, network, system, design, integration, and so on) If you could tell me why, I would be grateful, or if you'd like to relate your experiences, I am quite interested
. I am hoping to find a job in hardware design, but as I become better with some languages, I am finding just how much I enjoy programming, so I really have an open mind at this juncture. I would love to hear from some people in the 'real world'.
You want to understand:
Different language paradigms (procedural, oop, functional, parallel, logic [e.g., Prolog], constraint). Do some programming in each.
Different software architectures. OSes, standard applications (MVC, ...)
Software Engineering: requirements, specifation (especially design-by-contract), design, testing. These ideas hold in hardware engineering too.
I would start not by learning a programming language but the fundementals like below 1) computer organisation 2) operating systems theory 3) fundementals of programming (oop and functional) 4) data structures 5) Compiler design and principles 6) dbms concepts
As a budding hardware designer you might want to learn Bluespec. This is a very high-level hardware-description language based on work done at MIT. It's both a language and a company. They have some very impressive results on modularity, predictability, and reuse in hardware design. Check out the page on the Bluespec compiler and find out if you want to pursue it.
I was wondering what you think would be a good language/few languages to become more proficient in, or to explore for a first time?
What do you want to accomplish? You seem to have a good grasp of many popular languages with several typing systems and paradigms. If you want to learn something else new, I would recommend functional programming as it's vastly different from anything you will have encountered before (imagine trying to write a program without an assignment operator eg. =) and becoming more and more useful. Haskell, Scala, and F# are all forerunners of the functional programming pack.
Also, what level of programming you prefer?
It all depends on what you want to do and what skills you want to use. Hardware and system programming will involve more low level stuff (assem, C, C++). The others are less language specific, but involve other skills, like a thorough knowledge of networks and APIs.

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I remember reading an article saying something like
"The number of bugs introduced doesn't vary much with different programming languages, but it depends pretty much on SLOC (source lines of code). So, using the programming language that can implement the same functions with smaller SLOC is preferable in terms of stability."
The author wanted to stress the advantages of using Functional Programming, as normally one can program with a smaller number of LOC. I remember the author cited a research paper about the irrelevance of choice of programming language and the number of bugs.
Is there anyone who knows the research paper or the article?
Paul Graham wrote something very like this in his essay Succinctness is Power. He quotes a report from Ericsson, which may be the paper you remember?
Reports from the field, though they will necessarily be less precise than "scientific" studies, are likely to be more meaningful. For example, Ulf Wiger of Ericsson did a study that concluded that Erlang was 4-10x more succinct than C++, and proportionately faster to develop software in:
Comparisons between Ericsson-internal development projects indicate similar line/hour productivity, including all phases of software development, rather independently of which language (Erlang, PLEX, C, C++, or Java) was used. What differentiates the different languages then becomes source code volume.
I'm not sure if it's the source you're thinking of, but there's something about this in Code Complete chapter 27.3 (p652) - that references "Program Quality and Programmer Productivity" (Jones 1977) and "Estimating Software Costs" (Jones 1998).
I've seen this argument about "succinctness = power" a few times, and I've never really bought it. That's because there are languages (e.g., J, Ursala) which are quite succinct but not (IMO) easy to read because they put so much meaning into individual symbols.
Perhaps the true metric should be the extent to which it is possible to write a particular algorithm both clearly and succinctly. Mind you, I don't know how to measure that.
The book of pragmatic Thinking & Learning points to this article.
Can a Manufacturing Quality Model Work for Software?

What language to further develop in? [closed]

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Okay, so far, I have been taking computer science courses in my high school and doing some of my own research on the web, and I have found I really like the subject. However, the computer science courses, having given me a small amount of experience in a few languages (C++, java, and python), leave me wondering where to go for development on my own.
I would like to create desktop applications, or even web applications if I could wrap my head around it. What language would you think would best facilitate this?
As a side-note, what are some good books or online documents that explain general computer science topics? I have found some good ones, but they haven't given me the depth I really want.What are some good ones?
Find an "itch"--a program you wish existed, that would be useful for you to have, but you can't find (or costs money). Then try writing it, using online resources (like Stack Overflow) to help you.
At this stage in your career, language doesn't matter very much. Some languages are better than others at certain tasks, but often your own level of comfort with the language outweighs other issues. So just pick a language you're interested in, and a project you're interested in, and get to work.
You may find that you need to start with a simpler project, or you may find more resources for a different language or framework. But getting started with something--no matter what that something is--is probably the most important thing.
Here is a classic but still quite relevant book if you ever want to level up from coder to software engineer.
Since you're still in high school, I would tell you that time is on your side. You have plenty of time to develop as a computer scientist. Therefore, take the long view for your development. So it's much better for you to understand the abstractions that underly software technology.
In my humble opinion, C++ and Java will always be around and you have plenty of time to develop your skills in that arena. However, a higher level language like Scheme or Python will pay plenty of dividends. You might find this recommendation highly enlightening.
In addition, every application will deal with a database as its system of record. Understanding SQL and data modeling is a win-win.
Also, understanding formal logic and/or discrete mathematics is indispensable for computer science. Computer languages are nothing but formal languages for executing
procedures: i.e. mathematical induction is used to define their syntax and semantics.
It sounds like you would enjoy jumping into a high level, modern language that's native to the operating system you want to target; Objective-C or C# for example. On the other hand if you really want to do something for the web, building a web app isn't much harder (there are just more choices to pick from for the back end and front end technologies you decide to use).
Basically, decide what project you want to work on and choose the best language for it. What really matters is that you're working on something.
What language to further develop in?
Given that you know C++, Java, and Python already, a next language I might suggest would be SQL and DDL: defining databases, and getting data in and out of them.
If your CS course didn't touch on it, I highly advise spending a bit of time with a more functional style of language like erlang, haskell or even lisp.
They won't become your day-to-day hacking language overnight, but can really help you grasp important programming concepts relavent accross all languages.
....especially the one about choosing the right language for the task at hand.

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