I'm probably just being very thick here, but it's not clear to me where I'm supposed to install 'new' user-specific programs on Windows 7 (and presumably Vista too, though I've not specifically looked at that scenario yet).
Under Windows XP (rightly or wrongly) we always installed our programs into folders under 'Program Files' and accepted that they'd be kind-of available to everyone. From what I can gather under Windows 7 I'm supposed to install my software under the user's AppData folder (possibly AppData\Local\MyApp). That makes a degree of sense, but the fact that this folder is 'hidden' by default means that we're going to have 'fun' talking our users through support stuff.
I want to install our software so that it's user specific (the Users bit in Windows 7 makes perfect sense) but I do want the user to be able to access it if required. Our program also includes a 'data' subdirectory which it needs to write into while it's running (embedded database), but as the program is intended to be single-user/standalone, the data folder being inside a user-specific folder isn't going to be a problem.
My problem is just that whole 'hidden folder' aspect of AppData. As much as I've trawled the MSDN, I can't work out where else I'm supposed to install user-specific programs. Taken one way it would seem to be something like AppData\Local\MyApp, and another way it would seem to be just as valid under the user's My Documents\MyApp equivalent.
Has anyone got a clear guide for where all this stuff goes? I found the MSDN docs confusing. :-)
Not really.
The directory that serves as a common
repository for application-specific
data for the current roaming user.
AppData is, surprisingly, for application data, not for installation (Click Once/Silverlight applications aside). You can, and should still install into Program Files, just don't expect to write into that folder.
You can install software into AppData if you want it to follow a user about in an Active Directory environment, which happens if you put it in AppData\Roaming (the SpecialFolder.ApplicationData location).
You can also install into AppData if you want the software to be available to just the user that installs it. This can be useful if, for example, you have multiple users on the same machine, who all want to run different versions of the software in complete isolation.
If you want settings to only apply on the local machine then you use AppData\Local, which is SpecialFolders.LocalApplicationData - this will make AD administrators very happy as the roaming profile size won't suddenly jump up 50Mb or whatever the size of your software is.
If you wanted to create settings which apply to all users then you're looking at SpecialFolders.CommonApplicationData
You should remember never to rely on the actual name of the directory - localisation issues mean this can change and the location does change with OS versions two. You should be using the special folder enumeration in your software, or the equivalent in your installer.
Could you not install into Program Files, but use AppData as it's supposed to be used, and store your database in there?
Windows 7 added the FOLDERID_UserProgramFiles known folder and by default this maps to %LOCALAPPDATA%\Programs. This is used by MSI when ALLUSERS=2 & MSIINSTALLPERUSER=1.
On Vista and earlier there is no canonical per-user application folder but just using %LOCALAPPDATA% is pretty common. Sadly MSI will just use %ProgramFiles% on these systems.
It's 2019, and I just installed Visual Studio Code (a Microsoft product) in the default folder of
%userprofile%\AppData\Local\Programs\Microsoft VS Code
This is probably for getting around the requirement to have an administrator or UAC prompt authorise the installation
Windows 7 folder structure is deeply inspired on Unix structure:
/usr/ -> C:\Program Files\ -> binaries: executables and dynamically linked
/etc/ -> C:\ProgramData\ -> global settings
/home/ -> C:\Users\ -> a folder for each user
~/.* -> C:\Users\Hikari\AppData\Roaming\ -> settings for each user
Windows has more folder, like My Documents for files with content produced by user, AppData Local and Roaming (which Unix usually handles with NFS).
It's about time for us developers to start using these structures. We must separate at least binary files that don't need to be replicated, global and user settings.
When a setup is installing an app, this setup should expect to have permission to write on Program Files. Once the setup is finished, Program Files should be writable only for other setups aiming to update binaries to other versions.
Please install executable files to the %programfiles% folder in Windows - a simple MSI based install package can perform an active setup for any new user who logs onto the machine to create the user specific files and folders in their profiles %appdata% folder. You see this behaviour for Internet Explorer, Adobe reader, etc. - It's the little MSI installer window that pops up the first time you log onto a machine which has those applications installed. - Thanks - a system admin :)
My opinion, for what it's worth, is that user-specific program files is just asking for trouble and is a damn stupid thing to do.
A much more sensible approach is to install different versions of your program to:
\Program Files\Your Program\Program_v0.1\Program.exe
\Program Files\Your Program\Program_v0.2\Program.exe
\Program Files\Your Program\Program_v0.3\Program.exe
\Program Files\Your Program\Program_v0.4\Program.exe
I would then place a bootstrapping launcher at:
\Program Files\Your Program\ProgramLauncher.exe
Then, the user application data folder will only contain data, including an INI/XML/Settings file that indicates the version of the program that this user is working with.
Such an approach satisfies the core tenant of keeping data and executing code separate, allows every user to run a specific version of the code, and offers a small amount of de-duplication by ensuring the same executable code is not copied multiple times across user folders.
Otherwise, go right ahead with installing programs to AppData and undoing the years it has taken us to achieve clean separation of code and data. I found this thread because I noticed that Chromium and DropBox are installing code to AppData. I'm going to uninstall those program, and change the permissions on my AppData folder to exclude execution to ensure I can easily spot other programs attempting the same BS.
I try to make a setup with Inno Setup for my program.
I have installed more file XML in the same folder as the .exe. The install work well, but when I run the program and modify the XML, the file is saved in another place, not the folder of the .exe and I can't find it. I think the file is stored in the PC because the program can open it without problems.
I also try to make the same setup with InstallAware Express 7 and it works well. Io I think it's not a problem in my exe but in Inno Setup.
Thanks
I think you are a victim of Windows File virtualization.
You probably install data files to Program Files folder.
That folder is not writable (unless your program runs with elevated privileges). If your program does not have application manifest, Windows considers it a legacy application that is not aware of its inability to write to Program Files and enables file virtualization. So, when your application tries to write the data/XML files, Windows redirects the write (and future reads) to a virtual store (C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\VirtualStore). The actual files in the Program Files are not modified.
It's difficult to answer, why it works with the InstallAware Express. If you tried it after the Inno Setup, the results can be affected by an existence of the file in the virtual store.
Anyway, the root cause is that your application tries to write the files in the Program Files. That's just wrong. No application should write to Program Files.
See also Application does not work when installed with Inno Setup.
My setup project performs a UAC check because it uses regserver. This is OK (and in fact necessary); however it makes all of the installed files be owned by Administrator , and not by the user that originally ran the installer.
This means that the user that ran the installer cannot edit any of the configuration files that are part of my installation.
I don't want to set permission on the files to be writable by Everyone; they just need to be writable by the user that ran the installation.
Does Inno Setup have any way of assigning ownership of certain files (or all of the files) to the user that ran the self-installing executable?
I am not using the line PrivilegesRequired=admin although it seems makes no difference whether or not that line is active. (Presumably because regserver implies this).
This is a more general and noob question. I am developing a small application in Linux (Ubuntu, to be more precise) and at this point I have an executable, a shared library (.so), a configuration file (.conf) with some settings to be read by the application at the beginning, a data folder with images and other resources to be used during the application life-time (resources that can be also modified, deleted) and of course, I would need some file for logs and messages (right now I am using syslog).
So, my question is, where should each one of these be stored when the application is installed on a client's computer? What is the standard way of organizing all the application's files in Linux? On Windows everything would be found usually in the C:\Program Files\(App Folder) but it looks like on Linux things are more (or less) organized. Can you give me some advices on this matter?
Program data were historically stored in dot-prefixed folders in user's home directory. Modern Linux distributions tends to use ~/.config/program_name folder.
For all files that will not be modified after distibution follow Linux standard:
Ex: project dir: ABC
sub directories:
logs - keep log files
conf - keep configuration files here
bin - executable binaries here
traps - any trap mesg
then depend on what application we develop
Along with you can set level for starting your application from boot level if required.
I have created an installation with inno setup. My app (among other things) after is run creates a pdf file inside a subfolder and then opens it. But windows 7 says access denied and exception pops up. What's wrong? How to grant access to subfolders using innosetup?
Here's the code snippet inside ino:
Source: "C:\Users\Someone\Desktop\NET\Animations\*"; DestDir: "{app}\Animations"; Flags: ignoreversion recursesubdirs createallsubdirs
Presumably because you're trying to copy the file from a different user's private folder. That's off-limits. You can only place files into the current user's folder (the one who is running the install). It's difficult to imagine a good reason why you'd want to do otherwise, anyway.
Try using the {userdocs} constant, instead. Use ExpandConstant to expand it to the full path.
If you need things to go in a location that will be accessible to all users, you need to run the installer with Administrative privileges. Then, you'll be able to read/write from the All Users profile directory.
EDIT: Ah, sorry. I totally missed the part of your question where you said you were trying to do this after installation. I just looked at the code and thought this was something you were having Inno Setup do during the setup process.
It's a completely different answer for something after the installation has completed. Windows 7 (thanks to UAC) doesn't let your app (or any app, for that matter) write to system folders. That includes the Windows directory, as well as the Program Files folder and any of the folders it contains. This is a security measure, intended to stop applications from running amok in places where they don't belong.
You have a couple of different options:
If you absolutely need write access to the Program Files folder, you can prompt the user to elevate your application's process. Basically, that means that you'll be requesting Administrative privileges, and they'll see a box from UAC asking them for a password.
I give more information about how you might go about doing that from a C# application in my answer to this question. You'll follow similar steps for an app written in any other language; you're just calling functions built into the Windows API.
The better option, though, is to modify your application so that it doesn't have to write to system folders. That way, you won't have to run with Administrative privileges. This is the intended model for all standard Windows applications. Microsoft has been recommending it at least since the early days of Windows 2000, but you weren't actually forced into following it until Vista.
I talk more about the various places that an app has write access to (and the various uses of each) in my answer to this question.