I'm a node.js starter.
The product I want to deliver looks like online chat with 1000+ participants at a time.
I'm looking for a cross-browser demo (IE7, android support) to start with.
The thing I worry about is client side cross browser part. I dream about a library that uses web sockets for supported browsers and iframe for not supported, is well tested, and encapsulates COMET realization.
I have found some solutions in the web, but I'm qurious about your advices.
Thank you
I like to use socket.io which is a quite elaborate tiny library for handling such things. Maybe you want to give it a try as well ;)
I've currently found https://github.com/maccman/juggernaut the best solution. I will come back here in a month and tell about my experience
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We've made an application where two people can video chat with each other using TokBox, but are running into a lot of technical issues surrounding WebRTC and TokBox itself. I know that Twilio recently launched a Javascript version for their video service, but both TokBox and Twilio seem to be aiming for larger scale publish/subscribe operations. It also isn't as far along as TokBox.
Are there other services out there that can do web video 1 on 1's? Perhaps some that don't use WebRTC and therefore don't have the problems we are facing?
I can't help but to think back to ChatRoulette and similar apps.
If what you need is an application that needs to run within the context of a browser, then WebRTC is your only choice when it comes to the technology to use. There's just nothing else there now that Flash is officially dead.
If you need it to run purely inside a packaged PC/mobile application, then you can use something other than WebRTC, but I don't really see the need for that.
When using real time video technologies, one aspect to look at closely is the quality of the network you are using. The questions I usually ask myself are things like does Skype/Hangouts/FaceTime run any better? If the answer is "yes they do", then the problem is in the implementation you have done/used. If the answer is "no, they are just as bad" then you probably can't do a lot better either.
For alternatives, you can check out the vendors listed in this WebRTC Develoepr Tools Landscape: https://bloggeek.me/webrtc-developer-tools-landscape/
I don't know what you mean with "a lot of technical issues surrounding WebRTC and Tokbox itself", but I do know Tokbox handles millions of 1:1 streaming minutes every day, without issues, and it can even handle sessions with 1 publisher and 3000 subscribers at the same time, so, maybe the technical issues are not there, but in another place...
What technologies are available to accomplish audio streaming between browsers without the need for additional software?
I have tried Lync Server which doesn't support audio/video, WebRTC which is not supposed by IE and now I am trying Silverlight but it's not really well at all.
Anyone else know of any other ways?
Thanks a lot!
You can read here for starter: How to embed a web conference room into web application?
There are providers out there that will sort this out for you but if you want open source/free it is likely to be based on WebRTC.
You can also use Flash if you want browser coverage but providing code for that is beyond the scope of stackoverflow however Google can help you find a proper solution (you will most likely need a server like Wowza)
I wanted to know if anyone has been using AirBnB Rendr and is it stable and ok to use in commercial projects or is it still changing a lot?
I'm developing a website which can run both client and server based, this mean I need to be able to render pages and widgets server and client based.
The server is running Node.js, dust.js and has custom server based code to render the pages and widgets on the server side. I need to pick how to handle it on the client side.
Naturally I want to try and not repeat code, but obviously the client is different I can:
Keep my current page based server rendering and develop custom
client side code.
Use backbone.js on client side and keep my server based code the
same.
Use AirBnB rendr that is based on Node.js and backbone to use the
same code on client and o server. AirBnB Rendr Library
I like the 3rd idea very much, but I'm looking for some input from you guys.
Has anyone used it? any experience with it in terms of stability and/or how often their api changes etc?
I've just started playing around with Rendr. If I ignore the learning curve and oboarding friction, I like it a lot and I plan to write my next large production app using Rendr.
Unfortunately, as bababa listed above, the documentation needs a lot of work. There is an explanation of how Rendr works in its README and the example app's README but beyond that you'll need to source dive in order to figure out how the gears are turning. Currently, there is no forum for questions (other than stack overflow :D) and I've had a hard time figuring out its idioms on my own.
Despite all the struggles, I finally see the light and I'm starting to understand why Rendr is so powerful.
tl;dr - If you're willing to source dive and figure out your own workflow, I would suggest using Rendr. Otherwise, I would recommend going old school by writing a traditional client app with a more mature library. (is it too early to say that? =X)
Well given AirBnb is a successful commercial enterprise, there's some validation that the library works well enough for them. This question is probably best answered by watching their github commit log for breaking changes. Given backbone is 1.0 and essentially stable at this point, rendr will probably quickly stabilize, but honestly your fear of instability is probably unjustified. I think rendr looks compelling and although my current project is using a very similar home-grown solution, I would consider using rendr in a future project or even porting our code to rendr. "Stability" per say is much less important to the web development community compared to other situations like packaged or embedded software.
I used (tried to use) and Rendr on a project and gave up. There are just to many limitations (currently) and the lack of documentation doesn't help. I ended up need to rewrite the source code to accomplish some things I would consider trivial with other frameworks, such as passing multiple collections to a view. It just wasn't possible (at the time I used it) and that was a deal breaker. Not being able to pass a collection of categories and results to a page was to much of a limitation.
I have no doubt it will eventually be ready for production use, but right now I would say unless you are an engineer at AirBnb and know how to hack the source then no, it's not ready.
If you really want to know if it will work for your needs, take a look at the issue list on github. That will give you a good idea where the projects at.
I am looking for a chat server written in node.js, I am looking for something I can extend.
can anyone suggest something that is out there that supports at least a minimal amount of features out of the box, I don't mind getting my hands dirty and extending it, actually lookin forward to it.
I know something called NowJS existed but it appears that it isn't actively being developed anymore.
I was looking for some features like XMPP offers, i.e. Pub/Sub, sending images, contacts ... this was noramlly done with XML...
Anyone using something like this... The only one i found was chat.io but i was hoping for something with a litle more out of the box functionality.
Also to use websockets out of the box
Thanks
Socket.IO might be something you are looking for:
http://socket.io/
I'm going to be writing my own STUN implementation in JavaScript (server-side with NodeJS), and I'm looking for a library to base my code on.
I have found both JSTUN and PJNATH, and both seem to be supported by members of stackoverflow. I downloaded the source for both, and PJNATH was about 15,000 lines of code whereas JSTUN was less than 3000.
Is one library more complete than the other?
I need both server and client components, and I would like to be as feature-complete as possible because I do NOT want to implement TURN (too hardware intensive).
Is there a better library that I should be looking at? Ultimately I want to make a completely ICE complient solution, but STUN is enough for now.
as far as I know, JSTUN is not a complete solution. This is what they have mentioned in their site.They want to add support for RFC 5389.Please check their web site(http://jstun.javawi.de/).